Ideas for Defcon 15

[digital_dreamer]

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I'm down for the breakouts, I would recommend $20 also, keep it cheap, keep it fun, and bring more than six boxes this time if you can, I wanted to crack one at 14 but i was 2minutes late, lol.

DT,when are you putting up the main DC15 page with vendors, events, etc

Adam & Abby, please tell my you guys have the penthouse booked already xD

AST, get the cameras ready, this year will be better than last!!

[samayra]

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I think part of the success was in the cheap materials. It was VERY cool that folks walked away with a robot 10x the value, but in all honesty I think part of the success was cost of commitment. $200 to hop in a breakout session that may or may not turn out successful (for myself) is a big commitment.

This will be my first year attending a con and I would like to learn hands on. I agree that $200 is a big commitment.

If folks are doing it exclusively for the hardware discount then the wrong folks are consuming space of the breakout to begin with.

However, there should be some middle ground to limit the "space consumers", but still allow those on limited budgets to participate.

[converge]

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It would take a feat of astronomical size.. but schedule a time when all defcon attendees would go to their rooms. Pre-planning would determine which room-numbers were needed for the correct pattern, then in planned time intervals on a synced clock have everyone turn their room lights on or off in concert. All your base are belong to us.. an image of Mario jumping, cycling through the three circles of the defcon logo ...

[DaKahuna]

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Or the skull and cross bones symbol being displayed on both sides of the tower building!

[Nikita]

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You can't get non defcon residents to comply with your idea. I see the blinken lights wheels turning in your heads from here. But what about all the hotel guest in between in the negative space? ( And, What about light pollution )

[Abby_Normal]

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Adam & Abby, please tell my you guys have the penthouse booked already xD

Afraid not, the Riv has decided not to rent it to us (or anyone). We are looking at other options, fear not, there will be a party!

Just look for pumpkin man!

[converge]

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You can't get non defcon residents to comply with your idea.

hmmm.. there must be a way to control their circuit from outside? or maybe a friendly room rush? :p Actually .. weren't Defcon folk supposed to be stacked in our own segment for the most part this year?

( And, What about light pollution )

Interesting to note. This could require inversed displays .. draw the image by darkening a set of rooms and using light as the whitespace. This could actually work well for Defcon logos, skulls, or whatnot.. Other attendees could add a third texture by flickering their lights .. or to insane granularity by purchasing appropriately colored party lights ...


The biggest hurdle in such an idea would likely be physical space. Size of room/window in relation to actual width/height of the tower or hotel segment (pixel space). Greater resolution could be covered in lesser space by dividing each window into 4 segments using a thick enough band of opposing color .. bed sheets? .. but this adds much more time/complexity to pull it off as a trade off.

[Deviant Ollam]

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now the really funny prank would be to hack the hack... find the organizational cards that will tell all participants which lights to turn on and off, then mod the cards without anyone ever knowing.

instead of the defcon logo the hotel could light up with something like "crash and burn" and make the whole thing look uber-lame.

(bonus points to anyone who knows what famous hack inspired this post)

[converge]

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heh.. the brown note of the lighting hack. nice.

[Deviant Ollam]

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heh.. the brown note of the lighting hack. nice.

heh, i was actually thinking more of the 1961 Rosebowl Half-Time Hack where students from Cal Tech got the low down on some crowd-interaction stunt that the cheerleaders and band did, then urban-explored and/or lockpicked their way into the rooms where audience-participation instruction cards were held, stole one, made a bunch of duplicates and re-engineered the sequences (in what could be said to be a type of rudimentary programming), then snuck the modded cards back into the cheerleaders' belongings.

on the day of the game, various half-time signs (massive ones made by crowd members holding up colored squares of cardboard) showed incorrect things (like the CalTech Beaver mascot as opposed to a Washington Husky) and eventually the prankster school's name...

read the whole article, it's a terrific story if you don't already know it.

[renderman]

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heh, i was actually thinking more of the 1961 Rosebowl Half-Time Hack where students from Cal Tech got the low down on some crowd-interaction stunt that the cheerleaders and band did, then urban-explored and/or lockpicked their way into the rooms where audience-participation instruction cards were held, stole one, made a bunch of duplicates and re-engineered the sequences (in what could be said to be a type of rudimentary programming), then snuck the modded cards back into the cheerleaders' belongings.

on the day of the game, various half-time signs (massive ones made by crowd members holding up colored squares of cardboard) showed incorrect things (like the CalTech Beaver mascot as opposed to a Washington Husky) and eventually the prankster school's name...

read the whole article, it's a terrific story if you don't already know it.

Freaking awesome hack. A classic

A more fiesable display might involve attendee's putting a sign in thier window or perhaps something to the balconies of the skyboxes?

[BonzoESC]

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( And, What about light pollution )

Bahahahaha, have you even been to vegas? :v

[Dark Tangent]

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DT,when are you putting up the main DC15 page with vendors, events, etc

I am behind on this. I'm getting the CFP ready for early next week to announce it.

Also is the new floor plan for this year, and I want to start a discussion on use of space to help questions such as:

-- Should we not do the B&W Ball upstairs, move it to the convetion area so we don't get noise complaints, and people can find it easier?

[Nikita]

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hmmm.. there must be a way to control their circuit from outside? or maybe a friendly room rush? :p Actually .. weren't Defcon folk supposed to be stacked in our own segment for the most part this year?

This may be true, I have heard nothing concrete yet. However I haven't asked either. You would always need to take into consideration worse case and minimum participation required to pull it off.

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Originally Posted by Nikita
( And, What about light pollution )

Interesting to note. This could require inversed displays .. draw the image by darkening a set of rooms and using light as the whitespace. This could actually work well for Defcon logos, skulls, or whatnot.. Other attendees could add a third texture by flickering their lights .. or to insane granularity by purchasing appropriately colored party lights ...


The biggest hurdle in such an idea would likely be physical space. Size of room/window in relation to actual width/height of the tower or hotel segment (pixel space). Greater resolution could be covered in lesser space by dividing each window into 4 segments using a thick enough band of opposing color .. bed sheets? .. but this adds much more time/complexity to pull it off as a trade off.

Thank you for understanding the point. I've obviously BEEN to Vegas (responding to other comment ) and can imagine a few problems relating to lights, whereas in any other place it would make more of a visible difference. I like the idea of party lights, however I have hesitancy those would would be bright enough either. Good luck, I'm in DC at the moment but when I get back and settled down, I'll try to contribute some decent ideas.

[DJ Jackalope]

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-- Should we not do the B&W Ball upstairs, move it to the convetion area so we don't get noise complaints, and people can find it easier?

OMG, yes! Definitely. It was so very pretty upstairs, but yeah, hard to find.