Riviera may be sold by years end

[Abby_Normal]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

Understood, but I'd think that all databases would be considered part of the business assets and would be sold right along with the physical plant. For example, a customer mailing list db would be probably worth quite a bit of money by itself. I'd estimate that the "banned" list would be almost as important, for the simple reason that most of the people who are banned probably represent casino losses.

That may be true, but I assume they care far more about people trying to cheat at the tables or steal from the clients that a few people who got a little too drunk or made a mess.

That said I hope the change will be for the best. I can think of a few members of the Riv staff who really deserve to be out of a job!

[Thorn]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

That was along the lines I was thinking about... I was just playing the different owners, different rules game. (mainly, just being hopefull.)

Understood, but I'd think that all databases would be considered part of the business assets and would be sold right along with the physical plant. For example, a customer mailing list db would be probably worth quite a bit of money by itself. I'd estimate that the "banned" list would be almost as important, for the simple reason that most of the people who are banned probably represent casino losses.

[DJ Jackalope]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

Don't bet on it. First, casinos maintain databases on those people who ave been banned, so punching in the name at check-in would certainly alert the registration desk.

That was along the lines I was thinking about... I was just playing the different owners, different rules game. (mainly, just being hopefull.)

[Dark Tangent]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

Yea! More change!

[erehwon]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

Don't bet on it. First, casinos maintain databases on those people who ave been banned, so punching in the name at check-in would certainly alert the registration desk. Second, casinos are places where a lot of money is being moved. The casinos attract people who are not exactly scrupulous in making some of that money move into their pockets. Due to that, casinos are well known users of facial recognition technologies. (Google: casinos face recognition) If someone is banned, whether for gambling infractions or some other grounds, their face is probably added to the facial database of a given establishment. Using an assumed name may not be a valid work-around.

Sliced and diced from a post of mine on DC-Stuff.org

Biometrica is one of the industry leaders in this technology and they are local to Las Vegas, one of their original products is called SIN or Surveillance Information Network.

The SIN shares (sending and receiving) real-time information and alert notifications with a broad network of over 150 casino surveillance operators located in the U.S. and around the world.

The cameras generally stashed in locations where people are looking straight ahead, so the hallways in and around the convention space would be ideal, and not suprising if there were a few cameras looking out for troublemakers.

[TheCotMan]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

It would be easy enough to defeat facial recognition software at Defcon, Mardi Gras, Haloween, or New Year's Eve Parties, using obvious techniques.

Staying with other people at the riv, or in other hotels, could allow people to bypass the ID/CreditCard checks, but doing this may put the person that rented the room at risk for being banned.

Some blacklists are shared between casinos, though this is probably more common between hotel/casinos that have the same owner, just different casino names.

[Thorn]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

I suspect that either way, they're not going to remember J. Random Hacker.

Don't bet on it. First, casinos maintain databases on those people who ave been banned, so punching in the name at check-in would certainly alert the registration desk. Second, casinos are places where a lot of money is being moved. The casinos attract people who are not exactly scrupulous in making some of that money move into their pockets. Due to that, casinos are well known users of facial recognition technologies. (Google: casinos face recognition) If someone is banned, whether for gambling infractions or some other grounds, their face is probably added to the facial database of a given establishment. Using an assumed name may not be a valid work-around.

[BonzoESC]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

I suspect that either way, they're not going to remember J. Random Hacker.

[DJ Jackalope]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

so does that mean that if the riv gets sold, those banned from the premise may be allowed back?

[Abby_Normal]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

Riv may come under new management

I didn't see this posted anywhere else in forums, sorry for repeat if already brought up.

Hopefully by someone who knows what "professional" means.

[astcell]

Re: Riviera may be sold by years end

Wow, DT can buy it with the goon's beer budget and fire all the guards.

[hackajar]

Riv may come under new management

I didn't see this posted anywhere else in forums, sorry for repeat if already brought up.