Hacking Meeting at my house

[patsprou]

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I was curious as to if this meeting will focus on black or white hat hacking.

[noid]

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Or you could just come to the DC206 meeting on Sunday

[MagicJelly]

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Yeah I am serious about this. Let's all figure out a good date to meet.

[DaKahuna]

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Was this before the age of modern firearms? Sorry couldn't resist.

Modern Firearms? I was going to ask whether it was before or after slings and arrows.

[theprez98]

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By all means! It wasn't mine originally, an my old sergeant taught me that line when I was a rookie.

Was this before the age of modern firearms? Sorry couldn't resist.

[Thorn]

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I like that...with your permission, I'll pass it along to my friend over at ECSO.

By all means! It wasn't mine originally, an my old sergeant taught me that line when I was a rookie.

[theprez98]

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I agree that it does, but it also proves that with better investigation and less reliance on "confessions" the cost to the taxpayers of some appeals would be saved as would allowing the innocent to sit in a cell while those who are guilty are free to continue commiting crimes.

I certainly have no qualms with that.

I often see the "x people exonated" argument used as evidence that our criminal justice system does not work; while I see it as quite the opposite. That's not to suggest that there aren't many needed improvements to make the system better.

More importantly, when is this hacking meeting and where is his house?

[Floydr47]

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Back when I was on patrol, I used to love the morons who would start in with the "I pay your salary" line. I'd look them in the eye, and say "Oh, YOU"RE the cheap sonavbitch. I've been looking for YOU!" People never expected it, and it usually shut them up pretty quick.

I like that...with your permission, I'll pass it along to my friend over at ECSO.

Originally Posted by Floydr47
Between 1973 and 2006 there have been 123 death row inmates exonerated in the US. Those inmates served an average of 9.2 years each on death row. I quote as my source: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...scid=6&did=110

Doesn't this just prove that the appeals system works (while perhaps a lot slower than it should)?

I agree that it does, but it also proves that with better investigation and less reliance on "confessions" the cost to the taxpayers of some appeals would be saved as would allowing the innocent to sit in a cell while those who are guilty are free to continue commiting crimes.

[theprez98]

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Between 1973 and 2006 there have been 123 death row inmates exonerated in the US. Those inmates served an average of 9.2 years each on death row. I quote as my source: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...scid=6&did=110

Doesn't this just prove that the appeals system works (while perhaps a lot slower than it should)?

[Thorn]

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Sorry, call me ignorant, but that information is new to me...I always believed that LEO's were paid by the government agency that they were employed by and the government agency was funded by tax dollars. I guess I need to sue the government to get back some of my tax dollars that I have overpaid through-out the years...

lil_freak hit it right on the head. Aside from what she said, police departments also generate revenue via traffic, parking and other fines. As far as your taxes, here at least, schools still take about 85% of the tax dollar on the statewide average.

The amount of taxes that fund police departments can be very low in some places. In one town I worked in we did an analysis on what portion the average home-owning taxpayer's property taxes went toward police services. It turned out it was about $100 year. This was about 20 years ago, and the average amount of taxes was about $3000 at that time and place.

Back when I was on patrol, I used to love the morons who would start in with the "I pay your salary" line. I'd look them in the eye, and say "Oh, YOU"RE the cheap sonavbitch. I've been looking for YOU!" People never expected it, and it usually shut them up pretty quick.

[TheCotMan]

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Ahhh, why is it that everyone thinks LEO's pay checks come from tax money? If you had to do a breakout you'd find that depending on which state you live in, only 6% to 9% of taxes make up a local government employee's pay check. The rest of the pay check comes from things like extra-duty, security details, hosting training classes, and so on.

Yet another mark for not being vampires, but that doesn't mean they aren't werewolves!

On a side note, don't forget that LEO's pay taxes too.

Vampires in Movies give blood to make other vampires, but again, this doesn't seem to provide us with a useful metaphor suggesting an association between vampires and LEO.

So who trained the first LEO, the egg or the chicken?

Oh. Good question. Who created the first vampire or werewolf, for that matter? I'll have to check out some mythology and compare different people's thoughts on this, or maybe I'll just cite another source, which may include more facts wikipedia says the first police were Greek slaves but no mention of werewolves or vampires... yet.

[Floydr47]

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Between 1973 and 2006 there have been 123 death row inmates exonerated in the US. Those inmates served an average of 9.2 years each on death row. I quote as my source: http://www.deathpenaltyinfo.org/arti...scid=6&did=110

Now, given those figures for just death row inmates would cause one to wonder how many other inmates are serving time for lesser crimes that they did not commit. I would also wonder how many others have either been executed for crimes that they didn't commit or died of natural causes in the prison system while serving time for crimes of which they were innocent. That is the very reason for someone in custody to have the right to an attorney. There are many "confessions" that wouldn't hold water if closely examined. Confessions that are obtained by deception, cohersion, or simply due to the fact that the person who is confessing just doesn't have the mental capacity to understand their action by confessing. There are some who will confess to a crime simply to gain attention. A recent example is that of John Mark Karr, who confessed to the killing of Jon Bennet Ramsey.

Ahhh, why is it that everyone thinks LEO's pay checks come from tax money? If you had to do a breakout you'd find that depending on which state you live in, only 6% to 9% of taxes make up a local government employee's pay check. The rest of the pay check comes from things like extra-duty, security details, hosting training classes, and so on.

Sorry, call me ignorant, but that information is new to me...I always believed that LEO's were paid by the government agency that they were employed by and the government agency was funded by tax dollars. I guess I need to sue the government to get back some of my tax dollars that I have overpaid through-out the years...

[Deviant Ollam]

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When you start breaking out the "inevitable discovery" you definitely show off your L&O stripes.

actually, i learned about inevitable discovery from the works of Joshua Dressler long before i did from the works of Dick Wolf.

[Thorn]

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I agree with Thorn on this. Of course fly-alongs are usually more exciting and at times stomach turning.

JAFO?

[lil_freak]

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Maybe LEO are like Hollywood vampires

Only the ones who work the midnight shift

LEO are paid with tax money, and taxes are considered by some as the blood sucking government.

Ahhh, why is it that everyone thinks LEO's pay checks come from tax money? If you had to do a breakout you'd find that depending on which state you live in, only 6% to 9% of taxes make up a local government employee's pay check. The rest of the pay check comes from things like extra-duty, security details, hosting training classes, and so on.

On a side note, don't forget that LEO's pay taxes too.

LEO also train new LEO, so are LEO are "made" from other LEO?

So who trained the first LEO, the egg or the chicken?

Ride alongs are excellent for both the civilian and the cop, and I highly recommend them. They do tend to focus exclusively on the patrol side of things, but that's where most things start in police work.

I agree with Thorn on this. Of course fly-alongs are usually more exciting and at times stomach turning.