does anyone really hack anymore?

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  • Zuggy
    Member
    • Nov 2006
    • 25

    #31
    Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

    Being fairly new to hacking, here's the way I see it.

    The problem nowadays is that it's difficult for those that would be interested in true hacking to find the information they need and a mentor to help them.

    Because of the mainstream media calling anybody that illegally breaks into a network a hacker and even true hacking that should be legal being considered illegal (like the HD DVD hex code) it turns off those that would be interested in hacking and turns on script kiddies who think that they can be internet superstars with nothing but a simple click-click.

    I can testify to this because that was my way of thinking until a several years ago. I wanted to learn more about technology but hated "hackers" (as defined by mainstream media). Then about 5 years ago I ran into a little article entitled "How To Become A Hacker" http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/hacker-howto.html

    That was when I learned what hacking really was, but I still couldn't find anyone that could help me out, so I plugged along learning what I could.

    Today I have a great resource in my Linux User Group. Beyond that earlier this year some local security professionals ran a hacking competition and it was one of the most rewarding experiences I've had. Not because I was cracking networks, but because of what I learned. It taught me so much about how systems and networks work. It was about learning, thinking and using those to manipulate a system to do what you wanted it to.

    Hacking isn't about breaking the law, it's about learning, thinking and using.

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    • noid
      Fun Enforcement Agent
      • Oct 2001
      • 2394

      #32
      Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

      Well said, Zuggy. I think a lot of people, even us 'old schoolers', started into this with the attitude of 'OMG, we're totally gonna fux0r shit up, y0'. From repeated exposure to what you are calling 'true' hacking, you eventually learn thats not the correct attitude to take. Some folks give us shit for being rough on the new folks who ask those kinds of questions, especially since many of us asked them ourselves. Thing is, when we asked those 'how do I hack my schools lab computer' question back in the early 90s, we got the same shit flipped at us. The result is that you are forced to go out on your own and do research (you kids with your WWW have it easy). While doing research you'll eventually figure out what hacking is all about, why those other people gave you so much shit, how you deserved it, and how you can start doing things that will advance your knowledge and skills. Working with others in places like your local LUGs can be a great source of information, even if everyone is at the same skill level. Problem solving always goes easier when you have at least one expert, but that said, even a bunch of newbies can come up with a viable solution to a problem if they all put their heads together.

      I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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      • Dallas
        Goon and Aristocrat
        • Jul 2006
        • 336

        #33
        Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

        Noid, well said.

        Originally posted by noid
        Well said, Zuggy. I think a lot of people, even us 'old schoolers', started into this with the attitude of 'OMG, we're totally gonna fux0r shit up, y0'. From repeated exposure to what you are calling 'true' hacking, you eventually learn thats not the correct attitude to take. Some folks give us shit for being rough on the new folks who ask those kinds of questions, especially since many of us asked them ourselves. Thing is, when we asked those 'how do I hack my schools lab computer' question back in the early 90s, we got the same shit flipped at us. The result is that you are forced to go out on your own and do research (you kids with your WWW have it easy). While doing research you'll eventually figure out what hacking is all about, why those other people gave you so much shit, how you deserved it, and how you can start doing things that will advance your knowledge and skills. Working with others in places like your local LUGs can be a great source of information, even if everyone is at the same skill level. Problem solving always goes easier when you have at least one expert, but that said, even a bunch of newbies can come up with a viable solution to a problem if they all put their heads together.
        +++ Dallas +++

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        • lu1chy
          Member
          • Jun 2006
          • 1

          #34
          Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

          As l0ng as our .govs run This world There WiLL be hacking. As long as there is a Mafia lol - there will be hacking - as long as Gr33d RÜNS the money tree blah blah blah .

          This whole world is ran on Making money - and if you don't coninside - Your nothing

          As long as there is money in hacking like Frauds and all that other nice stuff - right Down to DUMPSTER DIVING - there will be those ppl - as long as there are drugs around - there will def Be those ppl!


          so my opinion: yes Why would they stop now - look at all the c00l sh1t we have out- Blue tooth hacking!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you know what i mean - technology is at ats best - and only gets more intense as we go- No doubt EH lol k pz!

          Ps:Much to much temptation around for gf's not to cheat considering alot of them are idi0ts - this applies to everything
          Last edited by lu1chy; May 29, 2007, 08:16.

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          • TheCotMan
            *****Retired *****
            • May 2004
            • 8857

            #35
            Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

            Originally posted by lu1chy
            As l0ng as our .govs run This world There WiLL be hacking. As long as there is a Mafia lol - there will be hacking - as long as Gr33d RÜNS the money tree blah blah blah .

            This whole world is ran on Making money - and if you don't coninside - Your nothing

            As long as there is money in hacking like Frauds and all that other nice stuff - right Down to DUMPSTER DIVING - there will be those ppl - as long as there are drugs around - there will def Be those ppl!


            so my opinion: yes Why would they stop now - look at all the c00l sh1t we have out- Blue tooth hacking!!!!!!!!!!!!!! you know what i mean - technology is at ats best - and only gets more intense as we go- No doubt EH lol k pz!

            Ps:Much to much temptation around for gf's not to cheat considering alot of them are idi0ts - this applies to everything
            Would you mind not using low-contrast colors with your fonts that make it difficult to read the dark-red text, and please avoid using "leet-text" or "SMS" text like "gr33d"

            Thanks!

            About "leet-text" and SMS-text on the forums
            (This is a warning.)

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            • theprez98
              SpoonfeederExtraordinaire
              • Jan 2005
              • 1507

              #36
              Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

              Now my eyes hurt.
              "\x74\x68\x65\x70\x72\x65\x7a\x39\x38";

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              • converge
                No Values Voter
                • Oct 2001
                • 3322

                #37
                Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

                now my brain hurts ... sounds like someone got let out of 9th grade a little early today, or maybe just missed the bus altogether
                if it gets me nowhere, I'll go there proud; and I'm gonna go there free.

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                • fell
                  lygers' bitch
                  • Apr 2007
                  • 8

                  #38
                  Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

                  I now want to hack my eyes. Does that count?

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                  • Synapse
                    The Synapse
                    • Aug 2004
                    • 35

                    #39
                    Re: does anyone really hack anymore?

                    worried/annoyed/angry/disappointed
                    Only thing in this thread that made me feel all that at once, is the eye-strain red text above.

                    TheCotMan's definition in first page sums up the question in this topic neatly.
                    Synapses, the spaces between neurons, are the channels through which our most fundamental traits, preferences, and beliefs are encoded. In short, they enable each of us to function as a single, integrated individual
                    -A synaptic self- from moment to moment, from year to year

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