Defcon Wifes Club

[TechnoWeenie]

well, we can work on the name later.

Here is the deal, many of us have our wifes out with us for Defcon. Most do not want to participate in the show, many of the attendees do not want to pay just so the wife can sit and bitch about how it sucks.

I am tossing around the idea of have a forum or thread here, where the wifes can spend the next year getting to know each other.. and maybe actually setting up and doing events during con.. OUTSIDE of con. Shoppiing, tours, shows, whatever. A group of them together are not bored... and are not pestering us.

I will work more on this thought later... but eventually will want a couple of wifes to lead the effort. Not male geek bashing, but setting it up, tours, etc.. meeting places times.

tw

[TheCotMan]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

well, we can work on the name later.

Here is the deal, many of us have our wifes out with us for Defcon. Most do not want to participate in the show, many of the attendees do not want to pay just so the wife can sit and bitch about how it sucks.

I am tossing around the idea of have a forum or thread here, where the wifes can spend the next year getting to know each other.. and maybe actually setting up and doing events during con.. OUTSIDE of con. Shoppiing, tours, shows, whatever. A group of them together are not bored... and are not pestering us.

I will work more on this thought later... but eventually will want a couple of wifes to lead the effort. Not male geek bashing, but setting it up, tours, etc.. meeting places times.

tw

If there is demand for it, a new forum can be made for this, and can be user subscription-based (like /dev/random and the UserCP's "Usergroup" called "All_Social" and could allow for a new group, "Meta-Defcon" or something else as desired.)

[mfreeck]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

well, we can work on the name later.

Here is the deal, many of us have our wifes out with us for Defcon. Most do not want to participate in the show, many of the attendees do not want to pay just so the wife can sit and bitch about how it sucks.

I am tossing around the idea of have a forum or thread here, where the wifes can spend the next year getting to know each other.. and maybe actually setting up and doing events during con.. OUTSIDE of con. Shoppiing, tours, shows, whatever. A group of them together are not bored... and are not pestering us.

Hello, this your friendly neighborhood politically correct arm waver.

I see what you're trying to accomplish here and I think it's cool. But seriously, you've GOT to come up with a better name. I agree that the group will be primarily comprised of females, but believe it or not some males really aren't into tech (I've bored more than one to tears) and not all of the females will be wives.
Undefcon? OtherCon? Or (heh) Undef (fits the political correct correct quotient nicely).

BTW, I'm sure some have no interest whatsoever in defcon, but I bet some of those "uninterested wives of defcon" might like to learn more about tech but are a bit intimidated to be dumped in a sea of geeks that laugh at them for being newbies and figure if they aren't techy, they must be there for the scenewhoring. Maybe they'd like some Geek101 so they can have a clue and feel a bit more comfortable at Defcon.

[Abby_Normal]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

Hello, this your friendly neighborhood politically correct arm waver.

I see what you're trying to accomplish here and I think it's cool. But seriously, you've GOT to come up with a better name.

Yeah, I have to agree, that was my first thought as well.

How about Matecon?

[converge]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

One would like to think that the pendulum could swing several ways on this.. but I would suspect the number of men falling into the category to be considerably lesser. Also of note is the beginning text of "well, we can work on the name later."

I think the idea is worth pursuing .. whatever people want to politically correctly call it.

[mfreeck]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

One would like to think that the pendulum could swing several ways on this.. but I would suspect the number of men falling into the category to be considerably lesser. Also of note is the beginning text of "well, we can work on the name later."

Yes, I noted that. Then the post went on to make many mentions of "wives" not interested in defcon(aka tech) and maybe they should all go shopping and "not [pester] us."

I was being polite.

I think the idea is worth pursuing .. whatever people want to politically correctly call it.

I agree that the idea is a good one and I know TW had only the best intentions with his post. Just saying that females hear "maybe you should just take your pretty self off shopping while I do man's work" far too frequently to let it go when hearing even a whisper of it from their community.

[Deviant Ollam]

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i wish folk all the best in planning/organizing a scene like this if it makes some people happy or makes their lives easer... but for the life of me i can't figure out why you'd want to bring someone along all the way to DefCon if they are so out of the loop that all they would do is sit around and complain. if that's the case, let them stay home for god's sake and get a well-deserved weekend apart from one another.

[mfreeck]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

i wish folk all the best in planning/organizing a scene like this if it makes some people happy or makes their lives easer... but for the life of me i can't figure out why you'd want to bring someone along all the way to DefCon if they are so out of the loop that all they would do is sit around and complain. if that's the case, let them stay home for god's sake and get a well-deserved weekend apart from one another.

I think it may be "I want to be with you syndrome." I had a mild touch of this last year and as people can attest, I had a WAY better time at con once I got over it. Folks want to spend time with their loved one, want to be involved in their love's interests, only to find out... they are a third wheel which is never fun.

Also, if there are small munchkins involved, maybe said spouse doesn't want to be stuck at home with no vacation at all. Even they were promised a later vacation, maybe they wouldn't be confident/too budget-concious/too busy to leave somewhere on their own. There are serious problems with that sentence, but you get the gist.

[DJ Jackalope]

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Maybe a new forum called "Disinterested in Defcon?"

[Chris]

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I'd like to see a wives (fuck you and your political correctness) badge. Something cheap that wouldn't allow them into the talks but they could still check out the common areas, vendor area, parties, skyboxes, etc.

One of my friends brought his wife out and since he is a Goon he could get her in to things but joe average attendee isn't always so lucky.

Thoughts?

[mfreeck]

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I'd like to see a wives (fuck you and your political correctness) badge. Something cheap that wouldn't allow them into the talks but they could still check out the common areas, vendor area, parties, skyboxes, etc.

Wouldn't every scenewhore buy that? Also, wouldn't poor attendees buy that then try to sneak into talks, making life hard for the door goons?

[mfreeck]

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Maybe a new forum called "Disinterested in Defcon?"

DisCon!

<lengthen message to 10 characters please>

[TechnoWeenie]

Re: Defcon Wifes Club

OK.. to clarify

I would like to see some kind of group of folks that go to LasVegas every year to be with thier partners, yet do not wish to attend defcon functions, that are willing to meet and do events.

Would this work for all? do not know.. Do I want to do it? NO.. would I love for someone else to? Absolutely.

would it make working defcon (long hours) the parties (networking - drinking) much easier if our partners had something to do while we are working. Meet and greets, lunch, shows.. whatever...

TW

[converge]

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I'd like to see a wives ... badge

I'd think twice about that ... it could attract an undertone of folks that come without any interest in talks, have the side effect of major annoyance on goons guarding talk doors, and otherwise just be more admin overhead. On top you start parcelling portions of Defcon instead of the conference as a whole; something that could be quite a slippery slope toward the 'experience' guarantee tards.

Nicely intended idea, but definitely logistical issues. Now.. a method for the DisCon Tent to identify club members.. that could be done via badge, sticker, rubber stamp to the forehead...

Wouldn't every scenewhore buy that?

I know I would.. then I could hook up with the hot haxors at a discount rate.

[sk00t]

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SOCon? Name's not to be politically correct, don't want to exclude gf's, or husbands for that matter. :)

Credit where credit's due, someone (you know who you are) was talking about this Sunday at the bar and came up with the above name.