Ninja party is canceled this year

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  • winn
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    It seems to me, IMHO, that 8,000 of the smartest people, geekiest people, technical people and the ultimate social engineers should find this current 'obstacle' and opportunity to demonstrate skills. :-) Does this mean we give up? I don't get off work at DC HJ until 1AM and I NEED somewhere close to go. Then again, this WAS all about me. :-)))))))))))

    Just thinking... out loud... everything is solveable: Remember Apollo XIII. The guys on the ground were given simulated conditions of what the astronauts had up there. "This is what they have. Now we have to save them." Arguably a twisted parallel, but one that nonetheless makes the point. :-)

    Winn

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  • falconred
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    Originally posted by barkode
    Also the artwork we'd built this year was built to fit -exactly- to the specifications of the room at the Riviera (we even went to Vegas to scout it out and take measurements), so losing the cool art would have really blown.
    BOOO! I smuggled that tape measure in my pants for nothing!

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  • Dark Tangent
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    We will be looking for a new hotel..

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  • DJ Jackalope
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    Originally posted by pinguino
    jackalope- that place looks really cool. but getting any group to leave the hotel in a coordinated fashion, even just for dinner, is like herding cats.

    Oh, you know it Sistah'. Maybe Lopecon2 in November then...?

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  • jedi
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    Originally posted by DJ Jackalope

    Jedi-
    since most of Vegas is Unionized (please correct me if I am wrong) the Ninja love will run into that everywhere.
    Would appear so, in the case of the bartenders:

    http://www.herelocal165.org/Index.htm

    There doesn't appear any way to report abuses to the union on their site, which from the description of last years event and this year's price jump is exactly how I would describe the situation.

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  • Siviak
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    Originally posted by pinguino
    ...getting any group to leave the hotel in a coordinated fashion, even just for dinner, is like herding cats....
    Hyperactive cats, wish sever schizophrenia, and a bad meth habit!

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  • pinguino
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    jackalope- that place looks really cool. but getting any group to leave the hotel in a coordinated fashion, even just for dinner, is like herding cats.

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  • DJ Jackalope
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    Originally posted by jedi
    Was the AP the only alternative location considered? Would hosting it at another hotel (besides transport logistics and last minute planning) cost just as much?

    Jedi-
    since most of Vegas is Unionized (please correct me if I am wrong) the Ninja love will run into that everywhere.

    I am still really partial to here as a club spot. Its not close to the Riv which blows, but still feels like home when you walk in. And besides, they serve Assjuice and I played in a bikini there.

    Ninjas: I think if you offered maybe even a 1/3rd of what you were going to offer the Riv, you'd get into somewhere with proper villians like ourselves at the healm. (But... i know how you guys operate, and I know I am preaching to the choir.)

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  • TheCotMan
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    Originally posted by DJ Jackalope
    you would probably just need one $35 a night generator to run enough sound for a party with the powered Mackie speakers I am thinking about. (if i am remembering how the sound was rigged last year...i dont remember what the subwoofer situation was in the skybox- were those Mackies', too?)

    If I remember right, Londo or Converge knew some of the park's regulations on amplified sound.

    As for the alcohol.... I foresee lots of plastic cups to get around that one.
    They also had a band, video games, a pretty cool SMS board, and the artwork with displays that could be powered.

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  • barkode
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    Originally posted by TheCotMan
    Anger. Frustration. Unhappiness. Sadness.

    Are there any venues close to the Riv that are easily in walking distance that would be more reasonable?

    Though there is not enough electricity or any electricity at all, the Toxic BBQ might be an option. Sadly, such a thing wouldn't be 100% private, and an open bar without flow control and validation could be problematic, and they require people leave by sunset, or some-such, but it is an alternative -- especially with enough generators.
    We spent a lot of time thinking about alternative venues. There's a lot of variables, the least of which isn't getting people to and from the location, and making it a simple process.

    The big loss would have been on the technology and the access control stuff. This year we were doing something really cool for the badges that had an interactive element and some hackability. We were designing these art pieces in CAD and milling them in aluminum and building in these video walls and... well, it was all very cool. But it was all built to use at the Riviera (measured for ceiling height, distance between doors, etc). So if we can't use all that stuff, and had to throw the event anyway, it would be disappointing.

    Anyway, we stopped work on those devices a couple weeks ago when things went sour, and there's hardly time to start it again now even if we wanted to.

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  • DJ Jackalope
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    you would probably just need one $35 a night generator to run enough sound for a party with the powered Mackie speakers I am thinking about. (if i am remembering how the sound was rigged last year...i dont remember what the subwoofer situation was in the skybox- were those Mackies', too?)

    If I remember right, Londo or Converge knew some of the park's regulations on amplified sound.

    As for the alcohol.... I foresee lots of plastic cups to get around that one.

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  • jedi
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    Originally posted by barkode
    Plan B was taking over the bar at the Alexis Park and running 4 rapid, simultaneous shuttle buses from the Riviera all night, but things were looking pretty grim at the AP. They don't want to run late-night entertainment events, because it bothers the hotel guests. Understandable.
    Was the AP the only alternative location considered? Would hosting it at another hotel (besides transport logistics and last minute planning) cost just as much?

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  • TheCotMan
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    Anger. Frustration. Unhappiness. Sadness.

    Are there any venues close to the Riv that are easily in walking distance that would be more reasonable?

    Though there is not enough electricity or any electricity at all, the Toxic BBQ might be an option. Sadly, such a thing wouldn't be 100% private, and it is also far from walking distance, making it difficult for goons to visit, and an open bar without flow control and validation could be problematic, and they require people leave by sunset, or some-such, but it is an alternative -- especially with enough generators.

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  • barkode
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    Originally posted by DJ Jackalope
    Hmmm wow. And ugh. Followed by more UGH. Did I mention, Ugh? Seeking a venue for plan B?
    Plan B was taking over the bar at the Alexis Park and running 4 rapid, simultaneous shuttle buses from the Riviera all night, but things were looking pretty grim at the AP. They don't want to run late-night entertainment events, because it bothers the hotel guests. Understandable.

    Also the artwork we'd built this year was built to fit -exactly- to the specifications of the room at the Riviera (we even went to Vegas to scout it out and take measurements), so losing the cool art would have really blown.

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  • barkode
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    Originally posted by kallahar
    There's also the option of having a "bring your own alcohol party", I believe the 303 party got around the corkage fee by only having free beer or something?
    Unfortunately the hotel is clamping down this year on such activities. All skybox parties had to have a contract with the hotel regarding alcohol. People can walk in with their own drinks, but with no bar, they're going to have to walk right back out to get another one.

    Sure there's plenty of things to do other than drink (I think I had perhaps one single drink all night last year), but people still want to nurse a drink while they're talking/playing/etc. If that's not available, it doesn't really work...

    We had all kinds of tech coming this year, lots of activities and things for people to play with. But underneath that, you've gotta run a bar. :)

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