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  • krom3bon3
    Unconfirmed Email
    • Jul 2002
    • 9

    #31
    MaxRad Antenna connector options

    I am wondering what connector option to get on the Maxrad antenna. If I order this antenna:


    - Maxrad 2.4GHz 5dB Gain Omni-Directional Antenna w/ 12' RG174U coax

    do I get the Male N (part #NCP with ML195 cable) or the Male N (part #UN with ML100 cable). Then do I use a

    N Female to MMCX Adapter

    to connect to the Orinoco Gold card? Does the adapter come from Maxrad or somewhere else? Any help on this would be great!

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    • blackwave
      Member
      • Jun 2002
      • 4270

      #32
      Re: MaxRad Antenna connector options

      Originally posted by krom3bon3
      to connect to the Orinoco Gold card?
      Most antenna kits that I have seen come with the N-Type Female connector on an LMR-240 cable.

      The pigtail would be an N-Type Male connector on an LMR-100A coax, and on the other end you would have the ORiNOCO/Avaya proprietary connector.

      If you aren't already aware you can get a Stumbler Special from Borg Man on his fab-corp site for an antenna and a pigtail. http://www.fab-corp.com/K1.htm just mention Stumbler Special in your order.

      Otherwise you can check out Fungus' store and get a good deal there. http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=5541302

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      • converge
        No Values Voter
        • Oct 2001
        • 3322

        #33
        For the sake of area coverage.. would teams be wise to go with multiple directionals, or is the mag omni mount pretty much the way to go for stumbling in general? Also, can one antenna be used for multiple orinoco/clone/11b cards, or is it best/only one per?

        Rounding out my stumbling abilities before the end of the month...
        if it gets me nowhere, I'll go there proud; and I'm gonna go there free.

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        • blackwave
          Member
          • Jun 2002
          • 4270

          #34
          Originally posted by c0nv3r9
          For the sake of area coverage.. would teams be wise to go with multiple directionals, or is the mag omni mount pretty much the way to go for stumbling in general? Also, can one antenna be used for multiple orinoco/clone/11b cards, or is it best/only one per?

          Rounding out my stumbling abilities before the end of the month...
          Multiple directionals would certainly by theory gain more coverage. Depending on the directional you may actually get a lot more coverage, and even overlap, which never hurts... With omni's everyone gets pretty much the same coverage...

          One antenna per would be best, the connectors required to add them will drop the gain to where it more hinders than helps.

          .... no fair giving away all the secrets?

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          • converge
            No Values Voter
            • Oct 2001
            • 3322

            #35
            Thats a rather blunt secret to try and keep. I'm just wondering how I'll explain my equipment to security at the airport...

            And splitting it does what I thought it would do to the gain (starts looking at checkbook) Is there an issue with not mounting directionals? I know all pictures I see of them have them securely fastened and bolted; something the driver / car owner probably will take offense to.. heheh
            if it gets me nowhere, I'll go there proud; and I'm gonna go there free.

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            • blackwave
              Member
              • Jun 2002
              • 4270

              #36
              Originally posted by c0nv3r9
              Thats a rather blunt secret to try and keep. I'm just wondering how I'll explain my equipment to security at the airport...
              if you make a pringles antenna, don't cover it up in black tape and velcro... that makes it look like a lethal pipe bomb, I have seen quite a few that looks like this.

              Originally posted by c0nv3r9

              And splitting it does what I thought it would do to the gain (starts looking at checkbook) Is there an issue with not mounting directionals?
              Directionals are as accurate as to what they are pointed to. You don't need to mount them, but your arms may get tired after a few minutes. You can get something like that is X shaped and mount one on each segment giving you four directionals.. and either mount that on top of your vehicle.. or try to put it inside without decapitating anyone..

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              • astcell
                Human Rights Issuer
                • Oct 2001
                • 7512

                #37
                Most airport security won't freak at the stuff under x-ray, it does not fit what they are searching for, so they pass it by. Besides if you see the news, you know they like to strip search 80 year old women instead!

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                • Temtel
                  The Forgotten
                  • Apr 2002
                  • 7

                  #38
                  Didn't notice if anyone was using Cisco cards or Wellenreiter. Here's my kit:

                  Hardware:
                  Compaq armada 1750, 128mb ram
                  Cisco Aeronet 352 w/ external antena connector
                  sector-pannel directional antenna w/ 6-inch pigtail, 11"x5" size, 11.5db gain, 120x90degree signal spread.
                  Velcro sticks it to my car or to the LCD pannel on the laptop.
                  5-foot coax extention (for car use)
                  No GPS (yet)

                  Linux kernel 2.4.18 (I think it started out as Mandrake, but there's not much left of it...)
                  Modified aeronet driver allows command to put card in rfmon mode.
                  Ethereal for permiscuous capture & TCP reassembly
                  Wellenreiter for random-mac stumbling.

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                  • blackwave
                    Member
                    • Jun 2002
                    • 4270

                    #39
                    Originally posted by Temtel

                    Cisco Aeronet 352 w/ external antena connector
                    That is a sweet card, for some reason it has evaded my collection of prism based cards... I think I bought a ton of cheap prisms to make up for the cisco. Wish they would make one that had both external and internal like the ORiNOCO..

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                    • dataworm
                      Member
                      • Jun 2002
                      • 315

                      #40
                      Originally posted by blackwave


                      That is a sweet card, for some reason it has evaded my collection of prism based cards... I think I bought a ton of cheap prisms to make up for the cisco. Wish they would make one that had both external and internal like the ORiNOCO..
                      is't AIR-LMC35x what you just described?! Beside that card can 2 external antennas instead of only 1 and they are optional so i guess it been it come with a internal antenna.
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                      • blackwave
                        Member
                        • Jun 2002
                        • 4270

                        #41
                        Originally posted by dataworm


                        is't AIR-LMC35x what you just described?! Beside that card can 2 external antennas instead of only 1 and they are optional so i guess it been it come with a internal antenna.

                        No. The ORiNOCO has BOTH an EXTERNAL JACK, as well as an INTERNAL antenna, and only uses either/or but not both at the same time. The Cisco Cards do not. Those that come with internal antennas do not have external jacks. Those with external jacks do not come with internal antennas. Here is CISCO's wireless link for the Cisco Aironet 350 Series Client Adapters

                        http://www.cisco.com/univercd/cc/td/...at/ao350ca.htm

                        Antenna
                        AIR-PCM35x: Integrated diversity dipoles

                        AIR-LMC35x: Two MMCX connectors (antennas optional, none supplied with unit)

                        AIR-PCI35x: External, removable 2.2 dBi Dipole with RP-TNC Connector

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                        • astcell
                          Human Rights Issuer
                          • Oct 2001
                          • 7512

                          #42
                          Dang my 340 series is already end of life. The 350 looks about the same, that won't last long I bet.

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                          • blackwave
                            Member
                            • Jun 2002
                            • 4270

                            #43
                            Originally posted by astcell
                            Dang my 340 series is already end of life. The 350 looks about the same, that won't last long I bet.
                            802.11b is quite crowded, lets move along the 802.11x

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                            • astcell
                              Human Rights Issuer
                              • Oct 2001
                              • 7512

                              #44
                              I remember having 802.11b before anyone else. Heck I remember having a one channel FRS radio that was $200 before anyone else, and the channel was all MINE!

                              Hard to imagine that at one time the Internet only had 12 people on it.

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                              • blackwave
                                Member
                                • Jun 2002
                                • 4270

                                #45
                                Originally posted by astcell
                                Hard to imagine that at one time the Internet only had 12 people on it.
                                I can't justify spending 50G's a year for Internet2... i wonder how many entities are on that?

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