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**KeLviN** · February 3, 2003, 21:02

again, i can't just steal my sisters. i need donations of transponders.

**astcell** · February 3, 2003, 21:12

I wonder first what freq they work on, can I turn my laptop into a transponder with a 802.11b card?

**KeLviN** · February 3, 2003, 21:18

if i can get some transponders i'll be able to figure out how to get the software on a laptop. they came out before 802 was big (aka cheap) so i still stick by my theory that it's more like a mobil speed pass on steroids.

**astcell** · February 3, 2003, 21:24

Mobil gives you $1 CASH to apply for a speedpass. I have like 30 of them now...

**KeLviN** · February 3, 2003, 21:32

have you opened one? it's pretty cool. i could have a piercer put the transmitter in your hand for less than $20.
the only problem is the glass cell it comes inn might break if hit, and out of the glass it might break easier.

i'm pretty sure that i duplicate (build) a speed pass for $300, plus $80 per additional unit. of course it wont be nearly as small...

i think i could clone a fastrak for $400-$500, + 100 per additional unit. again, not as small and sleek as the original....

all prices are my HIGHEST estimates....
i could probably do it for alot less, but no guarantees...

**astcell** · February 3, 2003, 21:40

Dang do you need to be on Hawaii to do this or something? :p

**KeLviN** · February 3, 2003, 21:47

most of the initial cost is for one time purchacing of some radio hardware i don't have but would need. after that i would need several components to build each one.

**blackwave** · February 3, 2003, 23:15

hmmm... can't you just call up fastrack and let them know you want to reverse engineer their product for educational purposes, and the advancement of a higher lifeforms?... maybe not use reverse engineer (that isn't a good word to use in lieu of all the laws)... but perhaps "engineering reversed" instead? ;) :D

**KeLviN** · February 3, 2003, 23:23

theis logic goes back to one of the rules we all follow as children; if you don't ask, you can't be told no.
i don't want to call and then be informed that they have taken my name, recorded the call for quality insurance purposes, and will take legal action if i pursue in my endevor.
it's like a blockbuster card, it's not yours, its theirs. and you cant tamper with it and they can take it back anytime (request it back)

**blackwave** · February 4, 2003, 06:54

Originally posted by KeLviN
theis logic goes back to one of the rules we all follow as children; if you don't ask, you can't be told no.
i don't want to call and then be informed that they have taken my name, recorded the call for quality insurance purposes, and will take legal action if i pursue in my endevor.
it's like a blockbuster card, it's not yours, its theirs. and you cant tamper with it and they can take it back anytime (request it back)

It never hurts in asking (from a pay phone)...
hmmmm... do you know where a nearby facility may be... could be a night of dumpster diving (of course abiding all local, state and federal laws).

**KeLviN** · February 4, 2003, 11:51

Originally posted by blackwave
It never hurts in asking (from a pay phone)...
hmmmm... do you know where a nearby facility may be... could be a night of dumpster diving (of course abiding all local, state and federal laws).

NOW you caught my attention! thats a great idea.... we'll discuss more fri.......

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