First Annual DefCon Lockpicking Contest Discussion

[Kai]

Dude...that is the second easiest lock to pick. The first being that shitty lock that "secures" your desk drawer.

haha

Never played with one myself, but we're hoping to get as many types of locks as possible for the booth when the heats are not running for people to play with.

So like I said earlier, if anyone wants to "show off" their lockboards, bring 'em by! :)

Kai

[blackwave]

Originally posted by Kai
So like I said earlier, if anyone wants to "show off" their lockboards, bring 'em by!

Hmmm... how about a mini-contest for best lockboard at the con? :) Surely that would prompt motivation to see more of them out there :)

Originally posted by astcell
I'd like to see someone pick a CLUB steering wheel lock.

We picked up the 40mm padlock branded by THE CLUB
http://www.theclub.com/hardware/steellaminated.html

Intended for use securing sheds, gates, cabinets and lockers.
Locking Mechanism: 5-Pin Dual Steel Ball

... and I can tell you that it is laughable at most ... it would be nice if they had someone actually testing these for security. They should really state as their intended use: "Intended for looking pretty, and even sitting on a shelf"

question for kai: Do you plan on having any of the pin tubular locks for the contest? There are a few picking tools for those, but not too sure how to what end such tools would be made to qualify. I wouldn't want to lose out on something because I didn't have the appropriate tool for it, and also hope that this won't be about who has the most picks, but more about the overall skills :) Eiither way it would be good to know such information (if is intended to be disclosed).

[Kai]

For the contest this year, the goal is to simply get as many people participating as possible, so a few standards picks and wrenches will get you to round 3 if you've got the dexterity to beat your fellow contestants speedwise.

From there, your on your own! ;)

Kai

BW: Check PM

[converge]

From what I saw, it looks like this doesn't conflict with the wardriving contest at all (correct me if I'm wrong).. so I can't wait to watch! ;) maybe pick up some tools from IVU while I'm at it

[begformore]

Only manual picks and tools will be allowed. No mechanical or automatic type devices.

Do manual lock guns count as a manual tool or mechanical?

[blackwave]

Originally posted by begformore
Do manual lock guns count as a manual tool or mechanical?

ack, I smell cheapness... it is all about the skillzzzz... if it has some type of trigger to automate anything (such as the raking and twisting) why even bother? learn the locks, and play with them... lockpicking is like lovemaking... do it enough and you'll hit the g-spot every time :)

[blackwave]

Southord PXS-17

I recently got the Southord PXS-17. The case and brass handle was the seller. It comes with more picks that I would care for, and I added a few more duplicates just in case...


and have posted the review here:
http://www.irvineunderground.org/bla...rd-pxs-17.html

[pezz]

Originally posted by blackwave
... learn the locks, and play with them... lockpicking is like lovemaking... do it enough and you'll hit the g-spot every time :)

How true....You have to be able to feel the lock. It becomes a sort of intuition. A finely tuned skill devoid of awkwardness.

[blackwave]

The Locksmith Version 2.1 Review



Around the year 2000 I was at a computer swapmeet and picked up The Locksmith Version 2.1 after haggling for 10 dollars... I was certainly hoping for more than it provided regarding the hardware... but the video provided on the cd was pretty decent, and most places that teach by video charge a lot more for the video clips... so it was a trade off. Click here for the full review

http://www.irvineunderground.org/bla...mith-v2.1.html

[azma]

masterlock

i was walking through wal-mart and i saw a lock by masterlock
"do it yourself lock" or soemthing to that effect..you can change the pins around to fit your house key..so i was gona use that to practice some different pin combos its 10$. i just wanted some feed back maybe somone has practiced w/ one?

[blackwave]

Re: masterlock

Originally posted by azma
you can change the pins around to fit your house key..so i was gona use that to practice some different pin combos its 10$.

Yes you can also use the 12$USD KWIKSET keyed entry door locks if you want to practice...
Check out this video on how easy it is to dismantle and play with the pins... I have a few of these on my lockboard to build up confidence with pins missing so that people can get used to how the pins feel... incrementally adding pins... very easy, very fun... it makes you wonder why people use these for actual security. :)

http://www.locksmithvideoschool.com/video/pickdemo.mpeg ~23MB
found on http://www.pick-a-lock.com/
and check out the MIT lockpicking guide while you are there:
http://www.pick-a-lock.com/mit-guide.html

Masterlocks are a joke, that little set of locks they have on their packages that state how secure their locks are really means how physically tough they are say if you were hitting it with a hammer... though I have 8 different ones and they are all pickable by just about anyone who has the lockpicking concept in less than a few seconds... very sad... and don't even mention warded locks... those should be banned period.

[azma]

what is the most difficult type of lock that everone has picked.?jsut wondering cause im looking for a lock to keep me busy

[blackwave]

most of the more difficult locks out there are because the cylinders are too small for even small picks... or because the picks you have aren't designed for the locks you are trying, medeco, tubular locks, magnetic locks, etc... though once you get the right tool, or make the right tool (by applying the theory), it doesn't take to long to figure out how to open it.

here is one of them, a real bitch... haven't seen too many people have luck with this one.. I even used my dremel to remove the plastic... didn't help. I passed it around to a few people and they haven't been able to pick it... though similar locks can be easily picked...

Give it a whirl..

http://www.masterlock.com/cgi-bin/pr...template=style



http://www.masterlock.com/promos/pep...k_callout.html

[sladelink]

have you tried disassembling it yet to take a closer look? that thing looks pretty damn tiny, i can't imagine I'd be able to get a pick in there without disturbing the other pins.

[blackwave]

I plan on taking it apart completely if no one can pick it, by looking at the key it is obvious that the first pin needs to be almost all the way down for it to turn... though even making a pick that does this while making sure the rest of the pins stay up is pretty difficult :/ I'll make sure to bring it so people can have at it :)