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[EeeekPenguins]

Well if you know some locals that are going you might want to have them talk to your parents. If they can maybe they will also keep track of you.

[3lM0]

Grifter and I are the only ones that under stand the multiplying thing since we live there. thanks for the ideas ill try the one about the local people being with me.

[murakami]

Mormons = Feds?

No jackets. Feds wear jackets, cheap ones.

And it's LDS, not Mormon.

[astcell]

No jackets. Feds wear jackets, cheap ones.

And it's LDS, not Mormon.

Feds wear jackets even in 110 degree Las Vegas?

Okay if it is LDS, then what is a Mormon?

[Gadsden]

When you talk to your dad again you could always mention the fact that there will be Federal Agents at DefCon and they keep watch over us. (my mom bought it once, quite a while ago :) )

Of course questions and fear could arise out of why do the Feds go and why do they watch over some of us. So you might not want to take my advice but its up to you.

*Just be forewarned.*

My dad used that excuse to try to talk me out of going to defcon.. ("They are watching that! You will get on a list!"). Of course, I was 25 at the time and had been on my own since 18, so there was little he could do.

You could always show him some pictures from the con.. that may help him make up his mind!

[Grifter]

Okay if it is LDS, then what is a Mormon?

Mormon is just another term for a Latter Day Saint. It was originally meant to be derogatory because of the LDS people were thought to be followers of the prophet Mormon, not Jesus, due to the title of the book. It has since lost the derogatory feel but the proper term is indeed LDS or Latter Day Saint.

EDIT: By the way, we believe in Jesus. After all it is the "Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints".

[astcell]

Grifter, Mormon is more proper than LDS to me and millions of others. No offense intended, but at the same time, no apology offered.

[murakami]

Feds wear jackets even in 110 degree Las Vegas?

Okay if it is LDS, then what is a Mormon?

Not in Vegas. In Vegas they wear hawaiian shirts. Nasty cheap ones from Walmart.

I dunno what a Mormon is, but they kept telling me that they were LDS when I worked in western Wyoming.

[jesse]

in the words of that urban poet, the Fresh Prince... "Parents just don't understand"

[astcell]

That's why they are parents and not grandparents!

[3lM0]

I almost have him convinced to just take the whole family to Las Vegas for the weekend and to leave me at the convention. I hope that I am able to go.

[bascule]

I almost have him convinced to just take the whole family to Las Vegas for the weekend and to leave me at the convention. I hope that I am able to go.

You can disregard this if your parents aren't mormon, and my apologies if they are (take that as you will), but you should inform your parents about this:

These records were engraven on plates which had the appearance of gold, each plate was six inches wide and eight inches long, and not quite so thick as common tin. They were filled with engravings, in Egyptian characters, and bound together in a volume as the leaves of a book, with three rings running through the whole. The volume was something near six inches in thickness, a part of which was sealed

6 in * 8 in * 6 in = 288 in^3

Density of gold: 0.697 lb/in^3

288 in^3 * 0.697 lb/in^3 = 200 lb

Would the plates weigh less than a solid block of gold? Probably, perhaps in the 100-150 lb range. Imagine how much they would weigh and how this would affect Joseph Smith returning home with them given this account of the event according to this mother:

The plates were secreted about three miles from home... Joseph, on coming to them, took them from their secret place, and, wrapping them in his linen frock, placed them under his arm and started for home.

After proceeding a short distance, he thought it would be more safe to leave the road and go through the woods. Traveling some distance after he left the road, he came to a large windfall, and as he was jumping over a log, a man sprang up from behind it, and gave him a heavy blow with a gun. Joseph turned around and knocked him down, then ran at the top of his speed. About half a mile further he was attacked again in the same manner as before; he knocked this man down in like manner as the former, and ran on again; and before he reached home he was assaulted the third time. In striking the last one he dislocated his thumb, which, however, he did not notice until he came within sight of the house, when he threw himself down in the corner of the fence in order to recover his breath. As soon as he was able, he arose and came to the house. lie was still altogether speechless from fright and the fatigue of running.

So, you be the judge as to whether or not Joseph Smith could run at the "top of speed" after taking a blow from a gun, all the time while carrying 100-150 pound golden plates.

But despite every account from Joseph Smith of the plates claiming they're "solid gold", the Church of LDS now insists that they're made of a special alloy called tumbaga, which is only partly gold but mostly copper. Uh huh... is this what George Bush would refer to as "revisionist history"?

I'm surprised the church doesn't claim Joseph Smith was bestowed upon with divine power from the Lord to bear that heavy burden at the... top of speed... while injured...

[highwizard]

You can disregard this if your parents aren't
I'm surprised the church doesn't claim Joseph Smith was bestowed upon with divine power from the Lord to bear that heavy burden at the... top of speed... while injured...

Dude.. Stop.. Go be anti-religion somewhere else...

This thread isn't about religion, so stop trying to put the Mormons down...

Shit... In my mind you're as bad to the mormons as Bush is to the Gays. Welcome to the club of being put into the same category as Bush.... Be Proud!

[wetw3rx]

this is all moot anyway. hey grifter, aren't all the goons responsible for chaperoning, handholding, entertaining, and generally protecting and guarding the individual welfare and saftey of all attendees under the age of 30? instead of big brother/sister, we can call it the big goon program. :D

[teklord]

San Diego

San Diego people are multiplying. It's getting harder and harder to find a damned apartment or place to live these days.

- teklord

Grifter and I are the only ones that under stand the multiplying thing since we live there. thanks for the ideas ill try the one about the local people being with me.