Def Con 14 Location Discussion

[erehwon]

The New Fronteir & Boardwalk are both scheduled for demolition in 2006.
--BC,

Scratch both of those venues off the list, they both have less than a quarter of the meeting space the Alexis Park have. I would figure any new space would have to have at least 60,000 to 120,000 square feet to allow Defcon to grow into for a multi-year contract.

Hotel wise there is...

Aladdin Resort and Casino 75,000 sq ft.
Bally's Las Vegas 175,000 sq ft
Bellagio 200,000 sq ft
Caesars Palace 240,000 sq ft
Flamingo Las Vegas 73,000 sq ft
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino 60,000 sq ft
JW Marriott Las Vegas Resort, Spa & Golf 65,734 sq ft
Las Vegas Hilton 200,000 sq ft
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino 1,663,697 sq ft
MGM Grand Hotel and Casino 501,000 sq ft
Mirage 171,959 sq ft
Paris Las Vegas 140,000 sq ft
Red Rock Resort Spa & Casino 94,000 sq ft
Rio All-Suite Hotel and Casino 160,000 sq ft
Riviera Hotel Casino 160,000 sq ft
South Coast Casino 150,000 sq ft
Stardust Resort and Casino 65,500 sq ft
Tropicana Resort and Casino 106,903 sq ft
Venetian Resort - Hotel - Casino 345,917 sq ft
Wynn Las Vegas 200,000 sq ft

I would be willing to bet a little something on the Flamingo Las Vegas as its across the street from Caesers Palace and having Defcon across the street from Blackhat would make command and control that much easier.

[big chopper]

<snip>I would be willing to bet a little something on the Flamingo Las Vegas as its across the street from Caesers Palace and having Defcon across the street from Blackhat would make command and control that much easier.

Nice piece of research!
I'm going to keep a copy of hotels & available convention space.
--BC,

[allentrace]

Scratch both of those venues off the list, they both have less than a quarter of the meeting space the Alexis Park have. I would figure any new space would have to have at least 60,000 to 120,000 square feet to allow Defcon to grow into for a multi-year contract.

Hotel wise there is...

Aladdin Resort and Casino 75,000 sq ft.
Bally's Las Vegas 175,000 sq ft
Bellagio 200,000 sq ft
Caesars Palace 240,000 sq ft
Flamingo Las Vegas 73,000 sq ft
Hard Rock Hotel & Casino 60,000 sq ft
JW Marriott Las Vegas Resort, Spa & Golf 65,734 sq ft
Las Vegas Hilton 200,000 sq ft
Mandalay Bay Resort & Casino 1,663,697 sq ft
MGM Grand Hotel and Casino 501,000 sq ft
Mirage 171,959 sq ft
Paris Las Vegas 140,000 sq ft
Red Rock Resort Spa & Casino 94,000 sq ft
Rio All-Suite Hotel and Casino 160,000 sq ft
Riviera Hotel Casino 160,000 sq ft
South Coast Casino 150,000 sq ft
Stardust Resort and Casino 65,500 sq ft
Tropicana Resort and Casino 106,903 sq ft
Venetian Resort - Hotel - Casino 345,917 sq ft
Wynn Las Vegas 200,000 sq ft

I would be willing to bet a little something on the Flamingo Las Vegas as its across the street from Caesers Palace and having Defcon across the street from Blackhat would make command and control that much easier.

I vote for Caesars I get free rooms there tx to my mothers friend who is a high roller there

[astcell]

Wynn is brand spanking new. It'd be great to go there.

[renderman]

Wynn is brand spanking new. It'd be great to go there.

Take a bit of the shine off the place as it were.

I wonder if many of us would be able afford rooms there. I don't really care about the quality of the rooms, I just need a place for the 4 S's. Sleep, Shit, Shower and Shave. Even then, most of those are optional.

[Vyrus]

Take a bit of the shine off the place as it were.

I wonder if many of us would be able afford rooms there. I don't really care about the quality of the rooms, I just need a place for the 4 S's. Sleep, Shit, Shower and Shave. Even then, most of those are optional.

agreed. besides with most of those hotells there big enough to where we probobly would not be able to buy the whole thing out for con. meaning we would have to "blend in" with the rest of the vacation crowd.

[TheCotMan]

agreed. besides with most of those hotells there big enough to where we probobly would not be able to buy the whole thing out for con. meaning we would have to "blend in" with the rest of the vacation crowd.

With a medium-sized a convention like DefCon, I am sure arrangements can be made to reserve entire floors in sequence for a given range. If floors started at the 2nd floor, then they could pre-allocate floors 2 through 26 (or whatever) and have the 26th floor be fore goons, guests, speakers, or others as a "buffer-zone" for noise to higher floors.

[Siviak]

JW Marriott Las Vegas Resort, Spa & Golf 65,734 sq ft

well this place got my vote more than a year ago... it has grounds just like the AP.. FUCKING great rooms, casino attached but sepratly owned (meaning 18+ for a room) it has a metric shit ton of restaraunts, the hotel is small enough that we can buy it out entierly but big enough to accomidate ALL of us (figuring around 7,000-10,000).... I think it is the perfect place. I hope we go there... HUGE pools too

[octalpus]

You know, I didn't think moving was such a bad idea, but y'all should stop speculating. With all this build-up, there's no doubt you're all going to be disappointed!

[CP99]

I would not mind at all if the next con(s) were held at the Tropicana, I have stayed there a few times, and its very nice, and reasonably priced as far as Vegas hotels go, Also they have a realy great pool with a huge waterfall thing. Good times.

[The Dark Tangent]

And the location is...

I wanted to revel this in the big post, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to post it here. Then I will monitor the conversation and use some of the questions that come up in the announcement.

Now before you get carried away, we DO NOT HAVE ALL THE SPACE for 2006 or 2007. It increases year by year depending on how much we use, with the first chance to take over the entire hotel in 2008.

If you find a map of the place, we have the side with the sky boxes plus some other space to the left of the right hand box. I'll detail it all out in the official announcement.

The management has been very very cool so far, and they have all kinds of strange convenetions there from Tatoo and fetish shows to English dart throwing groups. They are happy to work with us, and they are not trying to get rich off of food prices. They actually have a food court with Taco Bell, McD, and others at normal prices.

And the location is.. the Riveria.

We still are thinking aobut how to lay out the space, and once I post the layout of the space we do have for 2006 I would be good if you guys could think it through as well.

[guile]

Here's the map of the convention center

http://www.rivierahotel.com/images/conventionmap.jpg

I think it would be a good move

[erehwon]

I wanted to revel this in the big post, but the more I think about it, the more it makes sense to post it here. Then I will monitor the conversation and use some of the questions that come up in the announcement.

Now before you get carried away, we DO NOT HAVE ALL THE SPACE for 2006 or 2007. It increases year by year depending on how much we use, with the first chance to take over the entire hotel in 2008.

If you find a map of the place, we have the side with the sky boxes plus some other space to the left of the right hand box. I'll detail it all out in the official announcement.

The management has been very very cool so far, and they have all kinds of strange convenetions there from Tatoo and fetish shows to English dart throwing groups. They are happy to work with us, and they are not trying to get rich off of food prices. They actually have a food court with Taco Bell, McD, and others at normal prices.

And the location is.. the Riveria.

Riveria Hotel and Casino convention map!

[Adrenaline]

im gonna go ahead and bring this up now, as I'm sure a hundred other people will bring it up at some point, but be sure to address the concerns of any of the 'under 21' crowd. :-)

[Denny2000]

When and where can we make the reservations? Is it too early to make them now?

Are we going to have DefConTV still?
Does the Rivera have high-speed Internet in room? If so, how much?

I think thats all the questions for now.
Denny