Def Con 14 Location Discussion

[alklloyd]

Oh yeah, forgot... posted after I checked the rates on their website. That would be a big discount.

Al

[allentrace]

This would be a cool idea:

http://www.rivierahotel.com/gaming_chips.asp

Defcon 14 Gaming Chips

I am hoping to get PokerCon off and running with DC14 and if priniting up personal chips seems like the way to go as we get closer to Con time that will probably be the best option

[TheCotMan]

We DO NOT HAVE ALL THE SPACE for 2006 or 2007.

What will be done to ensure parties can go on for hours without Non-DC Guests complaining?
What can be done to help ensure "party rooms" are placed near each other and "we only want to sleep" rooms are placed together? (The AP, spread-out nature allowed louder parties with fewer people annoyed.)

If you find a map of the place, we have the side with the sky boxes plus some other space to the left of the right hand box. I'll detail it all out in the official announcement.

Here is a PDF of the hotel with rooms that people can download and resize well enough to read the text. [2324497 bytes]
When citing space use, having the same page will help make relative location description make more sense, and ensure we are all on the same page. (heh heh)

They are happy to work with us, and they are not trying to get rich off of food prices. They actually have a food court with Taco Bell, McD, and others at normal prices.

Excellent. They are also closer to "The Strip" which means access access to high availabbility public transport.
PDF of All CAT (Bus) routes on a map, and Route number list and PHP Script to find schedule per route.

And the location is.. the Riveria (map)

We still are thinking aobut how to lay out the space, and once I post the layout of the space we do have for 2006 I would be good if you guys could think it through as well.

Questions about on-site locations for unofficial meetings and events (Forum Meet, Summit (if hosted again, but at the con), QC, DJ Events, etc. Will these be included in planning?

Pool space. How extensively is it monitored? Will music be allowed in that space? Will we be able to take over "The CourtYard" that appears to be located next to the pool to allow DJ to spin "by the pool" ? Will the pools be closed during DefCon? What is the policy on Alcohol? Containers (glass, etc) bringing kegs, and bottles of hard liquor to rooms, drinking on the premisis, on the way to rooms, near the convention space, in the convention space? Is food allowed in the convention space? Everywhere?

Information gathered about the area:

Quoted:
"The hotel also offers valet and complimentary self-parking in an enclosed 1,600-space covered parking garage."
Rockin. Parking won't be like it was at the AP when it took an hour to find a spot in the middle of the day. (~4 years ago.)

Park search for TBBQ or other off-site events:
Using the quadralateral created with (East/west Streets) E. Desert Inn Rd. and W. Sahara Ave., along with (North/South streets) Paradise Rd. and S. Las Vegas Blvd. and This Map giives us "parks" [3],[36],[41],[31],[6],[2] which yeilds park names with lookup table 3) Cambridge Recreation Center, 36) Molasky Park, 41) Orr School Park, 31) Lynwood Park, 6) Cannon Aviation Museum, 2) Clark County Amphitheater ( Clark County Parks are open daily from 6: 00 a. m. - 11: 00 p. m.)

The above parks are probably small, and may not have BBQ Grills or not allow BBQ. Larger parks:
* 7.1 miles to Sunset Park (Site of TBBQ 1 and TBBQ 2)
* 5.0 miles to West Flamingo Park
* 5.4 miles from hotel to Paradise Park
* 8.2 miles to Whitney Park
* 16 .6 miles to Mountain Crest Park

Thinking about a DefCon shoot this year? Consider:
*** New Shooting Park is being planned (If DC Shoot is planned) (May not be ready by Con. I don't see an opening date. Can't find Decator and Buffallo intersecting Moccasin Rd. GUESS for location: ~20.6 miles from Hotel

Amusing info:
The Hotel has duct tape available from their AV Support. :-)
They have Printable Coupons. Oooo! Free hat. Heh.
3 Different rooms Heh. Different lense filters too.

[Deviant Ollam]

a question that i haven't seen discussed as of yet with respect to the Riviera... what of the TV feeds? will we be able to feed the talks to the rooms? what about the movie channel? most likely it's too soon to know, but if there are any rumors one way or the other, well let them fly and start a whole storm of speculation.

[big chopper]

will we be able to feed the talks to the rooms?

In my opinion, the main reason for feeding talks to rooms was that we couldn't cruise the con--walling from talk to talk, looking for an interesting topic. That and the fact that the lines, waiting to get into talks, became unbearable.

Hopefully, we will be able to attend DEFCON the way we did a few years ago without violating fire code, which greatly dictated the process at AP.

THE RIV IS A GREAT CHOICE!
--BC,

[h3adrush]

In-room computer data port: Yes.
Minimum age to reserve a room: 18 years.
Convention rooms: Yes, 150,000-square-foot convention center.

according to vegas.com

[CP99]

In-room computer data port: Yes.
Minimum age to reserve a room: 18 years.
Convention rooms: Yes, 150,000-square-foot convention center.

according to vegas.com

Sounds good to me, Especially the Minimum age to reserve a room. Me thinks that I shall be able to attend this year.

[Siviak]

will we have acccess to the sky boxes? if so I would like to reserve one now

[Mata Hari]

Woops...my bad,so much for that idea.
http://www.caesars.com/Reservations/...14&StepId=1hot
"Hot Deals" range from $140 (midweek) to $500 (weekend). I'd hate to see the ones that were not "deals".

Al

I must say, as a Vegas native, you have some really raunchy, horrific, true blue vegas locations- case and point with the El Cortez. HAHAHAH! Just moments away from the prestigious Fremont Street Experience, and while you're staying at the El Cortez, feel free to indulge in the delicious selections of STD's- crabs, herpes, syphilis, you name it, El Cortez has it! HAHAHAH http://www.vegas.com/resorts/elcorte...htl_lnk_cort_1

Seriously, though, The Stardust does get some props, and your best bet is to stray away from anything directly located on the strip (because, believe me, they know their location and charge for it, even if it is a shitty place), or a nicer venue that is near/on the strip, but has faded somewhat from the media'sl eyes(Harrahs could be an idea, and there is always the Ellis Island)-

I will drive around this evening and look for some possible areas. Tread lightly- many places are tourist traps, and if you don't have someone who knows the locale, you'll get screwed. Then again, Im certain that you are aware of this monstrosity, lol!


-Walsh

[Mata Hari]

Wow- Riviera is good- disregard my previous comments- But I do still suggest that you visit Ellis Island (Siviak and the DC702/2600 group know what I mean)

I must say, as a Vegas native, you have some really raunchy, horrific, true blue vegas locations- case and point with the El Cortez. HAHAHAH! Just moments away from the prestigious Fremont Street Experience, and while you're staying at the El Cortez, feel free to indulge in the delicious selections of STD's- crabs, herpes, syphilis, you name it, El Cortez has it! HAHAHAH http://www.vegas.com/resorts/elcorte...htl_lnk_cort_1

Seriously, though, The Stardust does get some props, and your best bet is to stray away from anything directly located on the strip (because, believe me, they know their location and charge for it, even if it is a shitty place), or a nicer venue that is near/on the strip, but has faded somewhat from the media'sl eyes(Harrahs could be an idea, and there is always the Ellis Island)-

I will drive around this evening and look for some possible areas. Tread lightly- many places are tourist traps, and if you don't have someone who knows the locale, you'll get screwed. Then again, Im certain that you are aware of this monstrosity, lol!


-Walsh

[Siviak]

Tread lightly- many places are tourist traps, and if you don't have someone who knows the locale, you'll get screwed...

and if you're lucky you'll only pay half price for the screwing ... I agree with Mata Hari, you guys need some cool local cat on the ground here that can check things out and do stuff.... that would be cool

[jur1st]

The above parks are probably small, and may not have BBQ Grills or not allow BBQ

Not allow BBQ?? Lunacy. This is supposed to be America!

[renderman]

and if you're lucky you'll only pay half price for the screwing ... I agree with Mata Hari, you guys need some cool local cat on the ground here that can check things out and do stuff.... that would be cool

Sounds like you just volunteered :)

Photo's would be nice :)

Also, the budget suites in behind the stardust is'nt bad for the budget concious attendee. $250/week and they are'nt bad rooms and only a half mile or so from the riviera

[Deviant Ollam]

Photo's would be nice :)

i agree wholeheartedly. the riviera's web site is just sad. with clickable popups, etc, you can "view the rooms" that they offer... all i got after temporarily disabling a bunch of browser security were three photos of beds that looked almost exactly the same, save for being different colors. yeah, thanks... that's a real big help in determining what style of room i want. =)

heh, quick... can you tell which one is the "standard" which is the "superior" and which is the "deluxe" ?

maybe we could get a locla to give us some exterior photos... or something that gives people a general idea of the grounds as a whole (where the rooms are, the convention space, the pools and chill areas, etc) i'd take even a rough hand drawing that went through a scanner.

as for rooms, i miss how fully-featured the descriptions were on the alexis web site... with floorplans and all. does the riviera have something like that which i'm just not seeing?

[astcell]

I will be there this weekend and can take plenty of pictures. Let me know what you are looking for and I'll get it!


The middle picture with the robe is a little disturbing. Do you get a free robe with the room? or is there a girl in the shower? Or is the photographer nekkid?