any more news on PokerCon?

[Chris]

It is indeed NL Hold Em'. If we get more than 16 signed up to participate a month before con we will definitely have more than two custom chip sets. I figure with a large amount of pre-con registration for the event it would imply that once word got out AT con the event would grow alot.
I am just thinking with small numbers in mind until I have a reason not to. It makes things easier on the brain. :)

I just did a quick poll of 6 friends (all of whom I know play poker) and all 6 say they'll play as long as the buy in is $100 or less. I think you are probably underestimating the number of folks that will want to participate, especially if it is promoted well, like in the DC14 Program. I'd imagine you are looking at 50 to 100 people, especially if you keep the entry fee to 20 bucks. In fact, you may even want to consider raising the entry fee to $50. That way you can have a bigger prize and it will hopefully discourage the fish from playing for the cheap entry fee.

Of course, it's your deal, and I am in no matter what. Sounds like a good time to me.

[Deviant Ollam]

just to note... there's nothing all that wrong or shamefull of the very first round being played (on all tables or just some tables) with plasic bicycle chips. i'd say obtain enough chips so that four or five tables can play after the first round concludes. grab cheap plasic sets to ensure you have enough to rock with the first crowd.

[Xodia]

I'd imagine you are looking at 50 to 100 people, especially if you keep the entry fee to 20 bucks. In fact, you may even want to consider raising the entry fee to $50. That way you can have a bigger prize and it will hopefully discourage the fish from playing for the cheap entry fee.

Of course, it's your deal, and I am in no matter what. Sounds like a good time to me.

Glad to have your support. I'd hate to have PokerCon face the wrath of Chris.
$50 is more expensive than we would like the event to be. We want this to be the everyman's poker tourney. Last night we did discuss making the buy in a maximum of $30.
Also, we took into account that multiple people have told me that I am underestimating the response to the event. With 30 people in mind and a $30 buy in it makes for enough money for us to break even, the first,second and third place winners would get awesome prizes and everyone else get bits of commemorative swag as well. The thirty people mark would be our goal.
If what you are saying proves to be right than we will have amazing prizes for the winners, a few things for the losers that make it to the top ten (based on who has the best poker face and other criteria that has yet to be determined), and still things for everyone else. It is going to be a great time.

just to note... there's nothing all that wrong or shamefull of the very first round being played (on all tables or just some tables) with plasic bicycle chips. i'd say obtain enough chips so that four or five tables can play after the first round concludes. grab cheap plasic sets to ensure you have enough to rock with the first crowd.

Already there, my friend. We are going to give most tables the cheaper chips for the first few elimination rounds and then break out our two-three PokerCon chipsets for the people who deserve them.
After all, if some people get angry about being eliminated in the first round we don't want them making off with our spiffy chips. :)

[loki151]

what about a re-buy to get back in

[Deviant Ollam]

what about a re-buy to get back in

while that definitely can ease the pain, i wouldn't go with it for two reasons...

1. those with more resources can re-buy-in, while those who are short for cash cannot. i realize that's just the way of the world, but it makes the whole process and odds less democratic.

2. it will make things run longer. the faster that everything can go by, the less likely we are to eat into other evening events. (or has it been determined whether or not this will be an evening game?)

[Xodia]

what about a re-buy to get back in

Yes, there will be a re-buy period(no add ons after it is over though). How long that period is and the details of the tourney(blind schedule,etc) will be on the PokerCon website once it gets up.
Tomorrow Allentrace and I are meeting to hammer out the finer points of execution for this thing(it was his idea after all).

while that definitely can ease the pain, i wouldn't go with it for two reasons...

1. those with more resources can re-buy-in, while those who are short for cash cannot. i realize that's just the way of the world, but it makes the whole process and odds less democratic.

2. it will make things run longer. the faster that everything can go by, the less likely we are to eat into other evening events. (or has it been determined whether or not this will be an evening game?)

Time is a big problem in the re-buy equation. This can be adjusted by limiting the rebuy period and adjusting the blinds so that the game will move faster.
As for the democracy of re-buys, I'm willing to bet that a majority of the players would like the option to rebuy once. Sure, this will be unfair to a few players, but for the whole of the game I think it would be a good feature. Its actually sort of favoring the inexperienced in that they will get one more chance. We will definitely limit to one rebuy however. Multiple rebuys would definitely stick it to the common man.

Not to mention with rebuys the prizes for winners will only increase. :)

[loki151]

thats grate to hear

[Deviant Ollam]

limiting the rebuy period and adjusting the blinds so that the game will move faster. ... We will definitely limit to one rebuy however.

all excellent measures. a limited rebuy gets my support.

Not to mention with rebuys the prizes for winners will only increase.

oh yeah, hadn't thought of that. altho, chances are i will be the one supporting the winner purse with additional buy-in money as opposed to taking it home.

[TheCotMan]

I've made a comment before about how the Scavenger Hunt is one of the best SE (Social Engineering) Defcon contests, as it often rewards those best skilled in SE with higher scores.

[5|7] Card [Draw|Stand|.*] Poker is another great example of this, as people try to control subtilties in their own body language, and balance this with calculated changes to betting that reinforce the message they wish to convey on the strength of their hand-- all of this to maximize wins, minimize losses by considering the probability of future draws, the relative value of their hand to their competition, and searches for "tells" in their competition.

It is really, "High Intensity SE," where each side is trying their best to read others while not being read. This could be an event to watch.

Will spectators be allowed at this event? How many? I'd really like to see how some people play.

[Xodia]

Will spectators be allowed at this event? How many? I'd really like to see how some people play.

Yes. We will let as many as space allows in to watch. Unless we can get some sort of webcam system going (which will not happen. webcams never work out) seeing people's hand will be rough, but people will be aloud to watch.

Be warned though, if there is any hint of a spectator passing information to a player both the player and the spectator will be removed.

[TheCotMan]

Yes. We will let as many as space allows in to watch. Unless we can get some sort of webcam system going (which will not happen. webcams never work out) seeing people's hand will be rough, but people will be aloud to watch.

Be warned though, if there is any hint of a spectator passing information to a player both the player and the spectator will be removed.

I have no desire to cheat, or help others cheat, but I would like to see if there are any hints on player's hands based on each player's body language, voice, betting, or topics of discussion.

It is something I'd like to spend maybe 30 minutes doing, and it is something that I can "fit in" without scheduling.

Also, if I happen to be observing a table where people don't want me observing them, I've got no problem being asked to go watch another game.

Thanks!

[loki151]

so i know i should stay out of this but http://stores.ebay.com/SB-Supplies has some good deals on the clay chips

[Xodia]

so i know i should stay out of this but http://stores.ebay.com/SB-Supplies has some food deals on the cly chips

You can always make suggestions...provided you can spell. :)That is a good deal. Thanks for the tip.

In other news PokerCon will be an 80 player tournament. There will be signup sheets at Con, pre-registration using paypal on the PokerCon website, and by just walking up before the event starts and asking if there are any spots left.

The final word on custom chips is that we are ordering two thousand custom/Defcon chips to bust out on the last 40 players. In the first half of the tournament we are just going to use the highest quality chips we can find for 10¢ each. PokerCon will be played in a lightly modified WSOP style( twelve $25 chips and seven $100 chips per player with the option of a bonus $200 in chips if $5 is tipped to the staff). When we get to the last 40 players there will be a small break while the PokerCon staff colors everyone up to the new chips(resulting in everyone having heaping piles of fancy PokerCon chips to intimidate their fellow man with).

[TheCotMan]

Will pokercon have a web page?
I found this. Is that it?

[Xodia]

Will pokercon have a web page?
I found this. Is that it?

Nah, that is just temporary. The real PokerCon site will be up shortly.