So, who is bringing what?

[seeess]

Re: So, who is bringing what?

I'd rather dual (two) than duel(fight).

I'll have to find two more so we can duel while dual wielding. Or we can duel with me holding both.

[Deviant Ollam]

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i have always lied to the hotel staff and said that my cases were music-related. transporting instruments, "we're with the band" etc etc etc.

It's illegal to lie to police, it's not illegal to lie to a hotel. When asked to open the cases (or asked why they're locked) your response is simply that "you're just the roadie... you think they let me have access to their $9,000 custom vintage Fender Stratocaster?"

[sintax_error]

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"Stuff for <contest x, event y>" is also a good one to keep in your vocabulary if you get asked. It is not illegal to store firearms or ammunition in your hotel room*, so there is no real reason to fret if you do get asked by hotel staff what may or may not be in the pelican case. Frankly, it's none of their business unless you do something astronomically stupid.

*I am not a lawyer.

[astcell]

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If the hotel asks if you have a gun, remember that you have a weapon, not a gun. So answer "No."

This is my weapon, this is my gun, this is for fighting, this is for fun.

(A "gun" takes 2 or more people to operate as intended.)

[Gigs]

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Unless they send out a memo or something, I think it's unlikely to come up with hotel staff. Vegas is where they have the SHOT show after all. It's kind of neat seeing all the Defcon shoot people waiting to check in with their pelican cases.

They are probably more concerned about someone trying to hold them liable for a high value item than anything else in the case of that machine gun, since they initially refused to provide a safe place for it.

[TheCotMan]

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You all avoid the questions entirely if you are willing to make two trips to the car, or check-in with a trust-worthy buddy, you trust to watch your stuff.

"The easiest question to answer is one that is never asked."
-Sum Wyze Gai

[wrøng!]

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Fuck questions. None of anyone's business.

[gnull]

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I just picked up a new case that looks pretty discrete, so I think I'll just dodge the questions or tell them it's an instrument(if they even ask). Since I'm a "long hair" they'd probably buy it anyway.

Anyone tried out the fancier All Weather Plano cases for travel?

[noid]

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I'll chime in here since I have some first hand information from last years event. If you do keep firearms in your hotel room, keep them in their cases. A guest left a handgun under their pillow last year that was found by the cleaning staff when they made up the room. It is apparently the policy of the hotel to have security contacted in the event a firearm is found loose in a hotel room. Security took possession of the firearm and told it's owner (who thought they'd been robbed) they would return it on the day they checked out.

I inquired with security after that incident about how far the cleaning staff will go in regards to finding firearms and was told that it's really only an issue if it's some place they will come across (eg. on the table, bed, bathroom counter, etc) in the course of their duties. If they walk in and see a bunch of closed rifle cases, they won't conjecture as to the contents of the cases. This is also why it's probably just a good idea to put that 'do not disturb' sign up on your door and just periodically swipe fresh towels from the maid cart.

[Gigs]

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That's probably a good policy. At the very least it protects housekeeping from accusations that the gun disappeared, or worse them trying to handle it.

At the risk of giving away a little security posture information, I have a length of thick, high grade chain that I bring. I loop it around something somewhat solid that I can find in the room, and put both ends in the hasp of the lock that I use anyway on my case. Usually whatever I wind up chaining it to could be taken apart with a screwdriver (like closet bars or window rails), but at least it provides a minor deterrent and changes a simple crime of opportunity into something that would require deliberate effort.

One tip though, if you are flying make sure you put that chain in an otherwise light weight bag. Last time I wound up with a bag over 50 pounds on my way back and I had to move the chain over to a different bag at the airline check-in desk. They look at you kind of funny when you pull out 10 feet of hi-test chain.

[Deviant Ollam]

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length of thick, high grade chain that I bring. I loop it around something somewhat solid that I can find in the room, and put both ends in the hasp of the lock that I use anyway on my case. Usually whatever I wind up chaining it to could be taken apart with a screwdriver (like closet bars or window rails), but at least it provides a minor deterrent and changes a simple crime of opportunity into something that would require deliberate effort.

i will weigh in and say that life gets a lot better when you lighten up your chains, etc.

recognizing the fact that you are focusing mostly on preventing quick snatch crimes of opportunity is the first step. then deciding to use just some heavy braided steel cable is the second. ;-)

once i learned this, life got a lot easier. particularly because you can then pack much LONGER lengths of cable. 1/4" thick cable is way more than enough in braided steel... and you can pack like 10' of it if you wish. enough to run through all of your cases together and still find a pipe or something to loop around.

[gnull]

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Steel cable sounds like a great idea, I'll have to gather some up for the trip. Anyone have recommendations on hard cases the TSA won't complain about? I've been eyeballing a Pelican 1750 since it is long enough to hold my Mosin and Rem700, but I've read good and bad about Pelicans. Mostly that the latches aren't terribly secure since they don't have a locking mechanism so they can pop open a little in flight.

[Deviant Ollam]

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Steel cable sounds like a great idea, I'll have to gather some up for the trip. Anyone have recommendations on hard cases the TSA won't complain about? I've been eyeballing a Pelican 1750 since it is long enough to hold my Mosin and Rem700, but I've read good and bad about Pelicans. Mostly that the latches aren't terribly secure since they don't have a locking mechanism so they can pop open a little in flight.

Technically anything larger than the Pelican 1700 case is considered "oversize" by most carriers however in practice i've never actually had an airline give me static about it during check-in. The most they've ever done is to direct me to the "oversize" belt after they tag it.

While the garden-variety Pelican cases do not have "locking" latches, the Storm Case line does feature a little "push button" on the latch which holds it in place better. Most of the models in the 3000-series from Storm Case are long gun cases. Of course, none of these cases should ever be transporting a firearm unless they are locked shut... in which case it doesn't really matter what the latches are like, there should be zero chance of the case ever opening for any reason (intentional or accidental) if someone doesn't have the key.

[not5150]

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My gear is getting way thinned out but way propped up. The Serbu Super Shorty was a hit last year so I am leaning towards quality instead of quantity.

Yeah, I feel sorry for the poor security guard when we checked out.... I think we were there for what 30-45 minutes? We had to inventory every single gun out of the lockup.

[xor]

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I got stencils and spray painted my real name and cell phone number in orange on my pelican case. No excuse for lost luggage tags.

xor