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  • #31
    Re: The Asshole Fiasco

    100 pts - "Free Vega" t-shirt

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    • #32
      Re: The Asshole Fiasco

      Originally posted by astcell
      Be proud. Be Defcon. Don't be an asshole.
      Slogans for next year?

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      • #33
        Re: The Asshole Fiasco

        Originally posted by noid

        2. Twinvega, Xodia, rest of the Neg9 kids - not banned from Defcon, banned from hotel.
        [.........snip.......]
        Either way, anyone whos in Neg9 who isnt Asshole, probably shouldnt be too worried about next year.
        Thats good. I was worried that some of the good friends I have in the group, as well as a few people who were enjoying their first defcon will be able to return. They are honestly good people, part of why they allowed asshole in their room (and partly because it was xodia'a room and they didn't have a choice).

        I'd like to thank noid again, and also all the goons and people who were understanding and went out of their way to allow the right people back.

        You can bet we'll ALL be more careful about who is hanging around.
        The only constant in the universe is change itself

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        • #34
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          Originally posted by dYn4mic
          " Yhey knew it was just this 'asshole' kid and twinvega, some other dc530/dc707 people had nothing to do with it becides being in the wrong place at the wrong time.
          Ahh.. this statement is prettymuch retarded (i guess thats what you get with super slow sleep and getting your ride stolen / not being able to make it hope easily.

          I in no way wanted to imply twinvega had anything to do with asshole or the other way around.. I should've said: "They knew it was just this 'asshole' kid causing the problem(s), and that twinvega other dc530/neg9/dc707 people had nothing to do with it.

          Just wanted to make sure nobody got a mixed message. (why can't i didn't old posts?)

          Can we please close this thread within a few days unless its going anywhere? I don't even want to think about it anymore heh.
          The only constant in the universe is change itself

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          • #35
            Re: The Asshole Fiasco

            What really pisses me off is some of my favorite people had to get dragged into this shit.

            Al
            "Are my pants...threatening you?"

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            • #36
              Re: The Asshole Fiasco

              Originally posted by dYn4mic
              (why can't i didn't old posts?)
              Ummmmm. Huh?

              (heh-heh)

              I'm guessing you are asking why you can't edit old posts. User are allowed to edit posts within 24 hours of posting with the "edit" image/link located next to the "reply" link in any of their own posts. They are also allowed to edit a post within 5 minutes without having the "edited by so-and-so at date/time" appearing.

              After 24 hours, the post is "sealed" from user edits. This helps to prevent problems that appear as a result of "history revisions" -- especially in discussions or arugments.

              As for closing it, any of the mods can close it, but I think it would just open up again elsewhere on these forums unless people are allowed to let off some steam on this issue.

              When there is no activity in this thread for 3 weeks, PM me a reminder to close it.

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              • #37
                Re: The Asshole Fiasco

                As the bartender in the MOJO Party room at the End of the Hall, Asshole is ..well and asshole. His actions very nearly got myself, and Icetre into the real possibility of going to Jail. In addition, he ruined what was a very expensive party as a result of putting the Metro, Riv security, FBI and everyone else into a "bad" mood.

                He cost ICETRE thousand(s), he cost me money, he cost Defcon the ability to have truly MOJO (non-exclusive) parties with FREE alchol. He has cost us all a lot. He was not alone, but he was the straw on the Metro's back that night.

                I dont know if I can get over being pissed at him in a year. But I can say this.

                I do not think the Riv is appropriate for Defcon, while it is perfect for a straight convention, it does not work for after hours activities and defcon "humor". I disagree with Defcon staff and others. Riv will ultimatly make Defcon more of a "daycon" than something we have fond memories of.

                Hopefully we can setup a gathering for EFF, MOJO and others next year offsite but still accessable. It was very clear speaking to Hotel management they are not going to allow grand parties, and I do not believe in "INVITE ONLY" parties.

                So ....we'll see where we go. That being said. Thank you to everyone who came to the MOJO party in the Penthouse, hope you had a good time Friday and Saturday (Until it was shut down). Sorry about the ID's, but I cannot go to Jail for some underage ASSHOLE.

                -DALLAS
                +++ Dallas +++

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                • #38
                  Re: The Asshole Fiasco

                  Originally posted by Mixitup
                  I do not think the Riv is appropriate for Defcon, while it is perfect for a straight convention, it does not work for after hours activities and defcon "humor". I disagree with Defcon staff and others. Riv will ultimatly make Defcon more of a "daycon" than something we have fond memories of.
                  I have to agree with this to some extent. Unlike previous years, I couldn't wander around and visit with a ridiculous number great groups in one night. It felt like there was a half-dozen places to be and then a whole lot of people that weren't sure where to set up. The extra space was nice, but I'd take the old atmosphere over air conditioning.

                  It's a tough call. I imagine we can adapt to the Riviera given time. Plus, the hotel might have been ultra-cautious this year based on rumors and now that they've actually seen us...

                  Originally posted by Mixitup
                  It was very clear speaking to Hotel management they are not going to allow grand parties, and I do not believe in "INVITE ONLY" parties.
                  Did anyone else notice the disclaimer about a $200 fine for bringing non-hotel food or drinks into the room for purposes of hospitality? I didn't hear of it being enforced, but what's up with that?

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                  • #39
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                    Originally posted by Voltage Spike
                    I have to agree with this to some extent. Unlike previous years, I couldn't wander around and visit with a ridiculous number great groups in one night. It felt like there was a half-dozen places to be and then a whole lot of people that weren't sure where to set up. The extra space was nice, but I'd take the old atmosphere over air conditioning.
                    I think next year they are going to make a greater effort to keep all the DC people in one tower, which should help

                    Originally posted by Voltage Spike
                    It's a tough call. I imagine we can adapt to the Riviera given time. Plus, the hotel might have been ultra-cautious this year based on rumors and now that they've actually seen us...
                    From what the bellboys told me that was indeed the case. They had heard ever horror story about defcon, and seems to have been giving the impression that all the stories happened at one time rather than spread out over 13 years.

                    They were expecting us to burn the place to the ground. And I really got the feeling that security was upset that pretty much nothing happened. They wanted to bash heads, and out good behavior left them with blueballs, so they tried to make problems out of nothing.

                    I think next year will be very different. I am already hearing things that I can't talk about yet that make me feel that next year will be better.



                    Originally posted by Voltage Spike
                    Did anyone else notice the disclaimer about a $200 fine for bringing non-hotel food or drinks into the room for purposes of hospitality? I didn't hear of it being enforced, but what's up with that?
                    Nope, and we didn't book our room through reservations, we went through the Rivs housing coordinator. We told them what we were planning, and they didn't mention it at all. I felt like when they ran out of things to fuck with us about they decided to go after that as a last resort. They searced our room for drugs, and found nothing, there was no damage to the room and no problems of any kind with us, and they wanted there to be.

                    But I hear the upper managment is pleased with us, and wants us back, so perhaps they will try to make this up to us.
                    "There are no failed experiments, only more data"

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                    • #40
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                      Originally posted by dyn4mic
                      (why can't i didn't old posts?)
                      Originally posted by TheCotMan
                      (heh-heh)

                      I'm guessing you are asking why you can't edit old posts. User are allowed to edit posts within 24 hours of posting with the "edit" image/link located next to the "reply" link in any of their own posts. They are also allowed to edit a post within 5 minutes without having the "edited by so-and-so at date/time" appearing.
                      Haha.. wow I'm not sure how I came up with that combo. Guess I still havn't caught up on sleep :-P
                      thanks for the info.
                      The only constant in the universe is change itself

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                      • #41
                        Re: The Asshole Fiasco

                        Originally posted by Mixitup
                        I do not think the Riv is appropriate for Defcon, while it is perfect for a straight convention, it does not work for after hours activities and defcon "humor". I disagree with Defcon staff and others. Riv will ultimatly make Defcon more of a "daycon" than something we have fond memories of.
                        [....snip...]
                        It was very clear speaking to Hotel management they are not going to allow grand parties, and I do not believe in "INVITE ONLY" parties.
                        Originally posted by Voltage Spike
                        I couldn't wander around and visit with a ridiculous number great groups in one night. It felt like there was a half-dozen places to be and then a whole lot of people that weren't sure where to set up. The extra space was nice, but I'd take the old atmosphere over air conditioning.
                        [....snip...]
                        I agree with most of what you both said. It does cut down on the community aspect of things and everyone seems much more isolated. If your "in" with the "community", then its not really a problem, but.. if your not.. you've gotta make friends fast, go out on the town or just watch defconTV (if it was operational). I felt bad for those who were having their first "con" experiance, it was much different than the AP, much more "invite only" which.. while sometimes understandable is something I dislike about the community.
                        It seemed MUCH harder to have lots of people in one place, or lots of friends going to the same thing if some of them got invited and others didn't.

                        Hopefully the riv was just being a bit overly zealus with their restrictions but... lets not forget they're a casino... much unlike the old alexis park that was off the beaten path (with beaten paths of its own)...
                        Having non-con people mixed in, as well as a large amount of distance between some locations made going from one party to another difficult.
                        (but, if thats the biggest thing to worry about, i don't have a problem :-P )

                        As others have said... hopefully giving defcon one or two of the towers would be great for keeping things close together and would be much better. Riv might allow for a bit less security now they know the goons are plenty capeable as well as we wouldn't be near the casino and "norms".

                        Next year might be almost as intresting as this year seemed to be.
                        The only constant in the universe is change itself

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                        • #42
                          Re: The Asshole Fiasco

                          Originally posted by dYn4mic
                          I agree with most of what you both said. It does cut down on the community aspect of things and everyone seems much more isolated. If your "in" with the "community", then its not really a problem, but.. if your not.. you've gotta make friends fast, go out on the town or just watch defconTV (if it was operational).
                          This was the situation some of my friends and I were in this year, where we didn't know too many people. We ended up getting into one of the skyboxes on Saturday and it was a blast... it would be great if everyone could just party together, etc, but I realize that idiots fuck it up.

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                          • #43
                            Re: The Asshole Fiasco

                            Originally posted by Abby_Normal
                            They were expecting us to burn the place to the ground. And I really got the feeling that security was upset that pretty much nothing happened. They wanted to bash heads, and out good behavior left them with blueballs, so they tried to make problems out of nothing.
                            Sorry to burst yer bubble, princess. Hotel security was quite happy to have nothing to do. As were the rest of us.

                            I return whatever i wish . Its called FREEDOWM OF RANDOMNESS IN A HECK . CLUSTERED DEFEATED CORn FORUM . Welcome to me

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                            • #44
                              Re: The Asshole Fiasco

                              Originally posted by dYn4mic
                              I agree with most of what you both said. It does cut down on the community aspect of things and everyone seems much more isolated. If your "in" with the "community", then its not really a problem, but.. if your not.. you've gotta make friends fast, go out on the town or just watch defconTV (if it was operational). I felt bad for those who were having their first "con" experiance, it was much different than the AP, much more "invite only"
                              I agree with this. Saturday night while converge was passed out, I went out seeking a couple of parties. Unfortunately, I didn't know where the invites for the 303 and ...neg9? parties were, but i had the ninja sticker. When I got there, no one knew who the fuck I was, so I kinda got the evil eye. I got in because I had the ninja sticker, but the fellow at the door stared at my ID so long I yanked it back... it seemed like he was memorizing it or trying to divine why such a lame person was able to get into such a cool party. It was a totally different story friday night when I was with converge. It was interesting to see how I was treated the two nights. I'm not saying one is right or wrong, just that two people could have an experience 180 degrees apart, depending on if they are known as "cool" or not. Someone could be a totally cool and awesome and brilliant person, but if it's their first year at con, they'll be treated like a lame outsider at these parties. It may or may not be what we want, but it's something to consider.

                              As others have said... hopefully giving defcon one or two of the towers would be great for keeping things close together and would be much better.
                              I would not want to stay in any tower but Monte Carlo. I also prefer my room to be an "oasis," and thus would not want to stay within earshot of a big party. If I had to pay non-defcon rates for the deluxe (read: fridge) room in monte carlo, i would probably end up at Hilton, though I'd prefer the closer Riv room.

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                              • #45
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                                Originally posted by mfreeck
                                I agree with this. Saturday night while converge was passed out, I went out seeking a couple of parties. Unfortunately, I didn't know where the invites for the 303 and ...neg9? parties were, but i had the ninja sticker. When I got there, no one knew who the fuck I was, so I kinda got the evil eye. I got in because I had the ninja sticker, but the fellow at the door stared at my ID so long I yanked it back... it seemed like he was memorizing it or trying to divine why such a lame person was able to get into such a cool party. It was a totally different story friday night when I was with converge. It was interesting to see how I was treated the two nights. I'm not saying one is right or wrong, just that two people could have an experience 180 degrees apart, depending on if they are known as "cool" or not. Someone could be a totally cool and awesome and brilliant person, but if it's their first year at con, they'll be treated like a lame outsider at these parties. It may or may not be what we want, but it's something to consider.



                                I would not want to stay in any tower but Monte Carlo. I also prefer my room to be an "oasis," and thus would not want to stay within earshot of a big party. If I had to pay non-defcon rates for the deluxe (read: fridge) room in monte carlo, i would probably end up at Hilton, though I'd prefer the closer Riv room.

                                Well the neg9 party was the little neg9 symbol stickers on peoples badges and that was xodia and I. The neg9 stripper con party, but that got screwed up. It just comes down to who you know. If you know the right people you can get into the private parties and such. People like to know who is at their parties so stuff like what asshole doesn't happen, that I believe is the whole reason for the invites.

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