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Originally posted by r0cketgrl
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A friend belongs to, and is active in, the Society for Women Engineers, or SWE. Perhaps you could start a society for female hackers. The IEEE has had articles in the past aobut females in the world of male dominated technology fields. In the last article I remember reading, none of the women felt intimidated or harassed. I'll be attending Blackhat with a female coworker who is also from W. VA. Otherwise, I would be willing to provide entertainment for your get together, but I don't want any stories geting back to the office. Last year I had a nice conversation at the swimming pool way in the back of the motel, by the parking lot.Comment
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r0cketgrl is the prize????Comment
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Not sure, thats the impression I got as well.Originally posted by astcell
Perhaps the quote was skewed.
However, I did receive a suggestion that I could acquire a stripper for the occasion. But, that would be sort of hypocritical on my part as I was slightly offended by the SH last year.
Perhaps for entertainment we could acquire someone to impress and entertain us by reciting the first 60 decimal places of PI.Comment
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...while wearing dog antlers from "The Grinch Who Stole Christmas"...oh yea there's a sight...Originally posted by pezzComment
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I think my man could probably still recite the first 100 decimal places of PI. He learned 'em in about an hour last year for the Scav Hunt...Originally posted by pezz
I think the geeky girl gathering is a great idea. I seem to recall that a couple of years ago there were fliers for girl talks, but I didn't make it to one and they never did it again.
There's so much going during the 2.5 days of DC proper that you almost need to move into Thursday or Sunday night in order to find a time that's good for everyone. Sunday after close of DC, but before all the after-parties might be best. You'd lose those silly people who leave early, but you're much more likely to have girls with free time.Comment
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Intimidation or harrassement have never been issues, in my experience... however, condescension and patronizing attitudes, resulting in the feeling that I have to constantly prove myself... those have been issues. Not major issues, but issues nontheless. But hey, they were motivational, so I guess it's a good thing...Originally posted by deltalima
And I like the "G3" idea. As in "Yes, the G^3 Spot DOES exist..." :D
I hope we can figure out a time/place for the gathering to happen.. and I hope this idea doesn't get forgotten by the time DC rolls around.Comment
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glass ceiling
My current boss is female. The lead on the project is female, as is her counterpart in another state. In my last organization, the top leaders were female. They had just promoted a woman who was not technically competant, but very pretty. Ironically, management was a better fit for her. I think the glass ceiling shifted over to cover men. Not that I'm complaining, I like entertaining women. Some thoughts for you to discuss at your meeting: will age discrimination affect these women? All the women I mentioned were young and attractive. Last year at Defcon, I tried to engage a young women into conversation about the difficulty of getting into the talks, and she told me that she was really there because it was a cheap trip to Vegas and she was able to sell it to her company. I also talked with an older gentleman who had been laid off. How will women keep their skills current? Age discrimination and skill obsolescence are problems for men as well as women. Another topic: How can you help your Muslim sisters who are really discriminated against?
Well, I have to go consult with our new female consultant now.Comment
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I don't believe that it will. The idea has generated much email discussion on a local listserv. We may even have several more females attending con this year just to be able to talk with other females in this type of setting. It has several who support the idea, and several who do not. Diverse topics are a great discussion platform if moderated well, and everyone remembers that in the end, it's ok to agree to disagree and keeps it from getting personal. I am fascinated by the differing inputs I have received through chat, email, pm, and the posts here.Originally posted by Shalome
I hope that I may be able to convince all DC females to attend so that each viewpoint may be represented in equal portions. That applies to the males as well!
OP: Provided very valuable input into insights of true equality and the meaning thereof. She also contributed several thought provoking comments that I hope to have her share during the gathering. (There may be bondage and kidnapping involved to ensure her presence)
<sidenote: There was one post in the Women of Defcon thread, which intrigued me. rrrrrr Perhaps someone knows of how we may get into touch with her?>Last edited by pezz; March 11, 2004, 07:44.Comment
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Originally posted by pezz
Why don't yall have the meet-up then a panel discussion to share the group's thoughts for the rest of us with penises. As an employer, I find this a very interesting topic.Comment
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entertainment
An idea for entertainment would be to show the movie "The Net". Discussion: Would a really smart woman, like Sandra Bullock was playing, really just hop in bed with a stranger like she did in the movie?Comment
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Dear $DEITY, please any movie but that piece of garbage. I'd even subject myself to "Hackers" if it meant I didn't have to watch "The Net." :yarf:Originally posted by deltalimaComment
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Did you try the AIM SN that she posted in her profile?Originally posted by pezz
Barring that I would try a PM. PM's send an email notification to the recipient.perl -e 'print pack(c5, (41*2), sqrt(7056), (unpack(c,H)-2), oct(115), 10)'Comment
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PM yes, AIM no, I will try that! I was thinking perhaps she was a member of last years HJ team "rrr".Originally posted by ChrisComment
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I smell a paper here
Being somewhat of an erudite myself, I pulled some books off the the shelf. "The Promotable Woman: Advancing Through Leadership Skills" by Norma Carr-Ruffino is an excellent book, with wisdom that would work for men as well as women. Written in 1993, it is still relevant. "Step Forward: Sexual harassment in the Workplace" by Susan L. Webb was written in 1991. "The 9 to 5 Guide to Combating Sexual Harassment" was written in 1992. "When No means No" was written in 1993. What the sexual harassment books all have in common is good advice on how to recognize and handle stress. Are they still relevant? I don't hear much about SH these days; it was a hot topic in the late 80s and early 90s. Does that mean most people are learning to behave? I haven't read the Venus and Mars books. I tend to disagree with what I heard about them, but I souldn't judge a book I haven't read myself. Another book I have is "The Balanced Engineer: Entering the New Millennium" which is the Proceedings of the 1999 IEEE-USA Professional Development Conference. It is loaded with articles on interpersonal relationships. One way to get more respect at these conferences would be to present a paper. Women are more interesting than mobile code. Well, almost.Comment
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